lightning labs elizabeth stark and melton de mirrors and amanda fabiano of fidelity labs and we invited the no when my whole crowd there were no i.c.'s by the way that i see a market by this point had completely crashed because the prices were continuing to fall and this was a bear market this was generally a bear market where down by over 80 percent of the big price from the all time high and this is always a time just like we covered back in 2013 and 14 this is a time for builders the movement of the 1st kind of incarnation leads to the decentralized decentralization movement which is kind of the judo in my mind from what was about you know the individual. movement is about integrating the whole planet right where the individual have a bunch of self sovereigns who can function as a real global entity now in a decentralized model and that's how you fight socialism in my mind right because now everybody is incentivized to grow the pie. in a way that really integrates the physical world the digital world and a bunch of print started using the term but in a way that's highly incentivized