it's not even close. 65% of iowa democratic caucus goers say they want somebody who can win. it's much more important than somebody who agrees on every issue. in new numbers we are releasing this morning, we wanted to test some of the attributes of the candida candidates. this is interesting because it is not what you usually see. washington experience comes out on top of what democratic caucus goers think will be an advantage for a candidate. 52%. that's good news for joe biden. on the other end of the scale, being over age 70 is seen as an advantage by only 1% of democratic caucus goers. which issues are driving their choices? look at this. abortion, climate change, getting an assault weapons ban back on the books. these are the driving issues more than medicare for all or free college tuition which have been issues dominating the campaign trail. >> joining us now we have cnn contributor, anna navarro and joe lockhart, cnn political commentator. great to have you with us in studio. let's look at the big poll, the main horse race poll. i want to pull that up because it's int

in speech is about as popular in democratic caucus as mexican tariffs are in the republican caucus anding anywhere since the republicans control the senate so what she is looking for our ways to let her progressives vent and so these hearings that are being held in these contempt threats and so forth are just ways for her members to be able to let off a little steam about this without actually pulling the trigger with formal impeachment hearings because they remain so popular. >> bret: here's representative emmanuel cleaver. >> i don't think it's right if somebody is shouted "lock her up." i don't think it's right that we're talking about lock him up. i think the speaker was in a private meeting where information was leaked. i don't think she would say that publicly. the president ought to have a little appreciation for nancy pelosi, because she's the only thing standing in the way of a full-scale move toward impeachment. >> bret: you think that full-scale move is going to happen? >> i don't know. i think when nancy pelosi is doing is a proper role of oversight of the administration an

to tell his story to the american people. >> as i mentioned, you're the chairman of the house democratic caucus. you're one of the democratic leaders in the house. as you know, at least 59 of your members, democrats, they want to at least begin impeachment proceedings against the president, but i take it you disagree, as does the speaker, nancy pelosi. what would it take for you to support opening a formal impeachment inquiry? >> well, i support the process that has been laid out right now by chairman nadler, which is we're going to have hearings on obstruction of justice beginning this monday, hearings on abuse of power, and hearings on the culture of corruption that appears to exist at 1600 pennsylvania avenue. once those hearings have been conducted, we'll see what comes out and then we can decide how to proceed at that point. in the interim, i think the house democratic caucus will continue to be united around getting things done for the american people. donald trump has suggested that we haven't been doing anything. he's not paying attention. the senate is not doing anything. we have passe

there are members of the democrat caucus that i.c.e. and c.b.p. are killing children in their custody. the democratic leadership has been engaged in negotiations to win the support of these members. one of the sluges contained in the manager's amendment is an extra $2 million for the continued operation of the immigration court. the average wait time to have a case heard is over 700 days. does the bill include the $55 million that the senate bill does for immigration judges? no. rather it rather it provides a 1-800 number to check on status of a case. the wait is over 700 days. the speaker pro tempore: the gentleman's time has expired. mr. cole: i yield the gentleman an additional 15 seconds. mr. spano: the wait is 700 days. that's like putting a band-aid on a gaping wound. i look forward to addressing this crisis but this bill is not the solution. if they were serious about solving the problem, democrats would include additional funding to take care of our law enforcement who are working so hard to address the crisis. and they would include addit

presidential elections when no democratic incumbent running who won the iowa democratic caucus went ono become the democratic nominee. >> who do iowa democratic voters like right now? what they like in their candidates and even how they feel about the idea of impeaching the president. >> also for the first time the iowa poll accounts for new rules proposed this year by the iowa democratic party. that is allowing athem to -- >> it will equivalent regardless of how many people participate. nearly 20 of the democratic candidates for the democratic hall of famer dinner. we look at whether the event can make a difference between iowa most dedicated democrats. >> reporter: the iowa caucuses may be just less than eight months away, but, today, is a big day in that first in the nation contest. 19 of the 23 democrats running for the nomination to take on donald trump will be convening at a big event in cedar rapids. they will each get to address the crowd of faithful and try to break through. take a look at our brand-new cnn des moines register poll and only five candidates crack 5% in this pol

jeffries is also the chairman of the house democratic caucus.o make sure the current practices of big technology companies like facebook are respecting the privacy of the american people, because these are entities that are holding the most intimate details of the lives and personal details of everyday americans in the most intimate way possible, and we have got to make sure that is being respected and that the privacy rights of those americans are not being undermined. from my standpoint, that's an important objective to pursue. kevin: yesterday i interviewed the chairman of that subcommittee, and he said it is a balancing act of purpose -- of respecting the contributions the big tech companies have provided to the american people, economically at from a service perspective. shareholders are uneasy about this investigation. what's your message to shareholders? rep. jeffries: the house democratic caucus is not going to predetermine the outcome of the investigation. we are going to follow the facts, be guided by the law, and proceed in the best i

in the last four presidential election and no democratic candidate running whoever won the iowa caucusent on to become the democratic nominee. >> the poll results point to who democratic iowa voters like right now and what they like in their candidates and how they feel about impeaching the president. >>> for the first time the iowa poll accounts for in new rules proposed this yeb-yeaar to allom to participate in a virtual caucus that happens online or over the phone. >> regardless of how many people participate. >> cnn political director david chian breaks down the numbers for us. good morning, david. >> reporter: the iowa caucuses may be just less than eight months away, but, today, is a big day in that first in the nation contest. 19 of the 23 democrats running for the nomination to take on donald trump will be convening at a big iowa democratic party fund-raising event in cedar rapids. they will each get to address the crowd of faithful and try to break through. and breaking through doesn't seem to be the easiest task. take a look at our brand-new cnn des moines register poll and y

there's not a single democratic caucus who's thinking about a rebellion against the speaker of the house. unanimously, of course there are lots of different opinions in the democratic kaung us. strongly held opinion. >> nobody is thinking about setting aside, pushing aside speaker pelosi on this issue. even those who feel this is necessary. is the public convinced that this is a president who is worthy of impeachment. i would add one other thing to this case, remember if all of a sudden tomorrow nancy pelosi reverses course and begins impeachment inquiries. nothing changes. it's not like the white house is going to start providing documents and providing witnesses, we're doing it under the guys of impeachment. people need to remember there's a strong argument in favor of impeachment. this president has behaved in a way that richly deserves it. impeachment is the atomic bomb of political tools. and you have to be thoughtful and careful about how you use it, don't be under the impression that because we were going to move into impeachment, that anyone else would be testifying here, we woul

caucus. that is the issue of impeachment. you have said in the past you think this is inevitable. it is something that democrats are going to have to begin, starting to forcibly remove the president. what do you think over the next several months could galvanize the rest of your caucus to that position? and do you think that needs to happen this year or is there a chance the caucus would be willing to do this in 2020 even though it is an election year? >> i think it would be unfortunate if we had to wait until next year. wait until next year to start the impeachment process in the election year. i think that would be unfortunate. it could happen that way. ultimately, our leadership might decide the only way to get side isentiment on our to wait a little longer and see what other evidence emerges from his investigations we are conducting. mentioned, i cosponsored an impeachment resolution in the last congress. i am convinced the president has committed multiple impeachable offenses, the latest being two days ago when he said he would accept campaign opposition research from foreign government , which is clearly

he keeps pushing the question within the democratic caucus. the position of holding back her own party against a very unpopular president. >> tim, it appears the president wants her to try to impeach him. pelosi appears to be making a political calculation that it isn't worth it. justi justin amash the only republican calling for impeachment. >> first of all, we have to recognize the amount of discipline the democratic caucus has shown. that's evident of speaker pelosi's leadership. they don't have the numbers. they don't have the votes. you would not end up removing president trump in the senate and it's not clear, by the way, that every single democrat would feel comfortable voting for impeachment. if you only have justin amash voting on the republican side for impeachment, it's a party line vote. do you want to further divide the country? there isn't a ground swell of support for impeachment in the country for the moment. we're not in 1973. this is in the at all like this. for speaker pelosi the american people are not pushing hard for impe

>> bret, i think there's two things that -- there's unanimous consent within democratic caucus on twonue to move forward on the agenda for the american people, we passed 250 pieces of legislation that range in everything from legislation to drive down the cost of prescription drugs to protection for preexisting conditions to tax relief for gold-star families, child care access for vets, restoring net neutrality, really robust agenda to raise family incomes, we have begun work on infrastructure bill, agreement in democratic caucus that the president must be held accountable, no one is above the law and we have responsibility to conduct oversight to follow the facts. >> but there's not agreement -- >> no, we are not going to let the president engage in cover-up and prevent the american people from learning the truth. now there is some discussion about what's the best vehicle to do it, is it through normal oversight proceedings or is it through the opening of impeachment inquiry? that's really a process question but what we want the american people to know is that the president of the un

billion in emergency humanitarian aid for border relief, we heard about a possible split in the democratic caucus on support for the bill. do you supported and are there the votes? guest: i believe there are the votes. and yes i supported. i supported because we have seen horrific humanitarian conditions and we have seen troubling reports which every member of congress should be absolutely alarmed by. it is not a partisan issue how we treat people in u.s. custody. it is an issue of who we are as a country and how we conduct ourselves. and the standards to which we hold ourselves. an absolute need for additional funding. the detention facilities or their breaking point and we need to authorize the funds and so i will be supporting this bill. in addition to other pieces of legislation, the keeping families together act. outline what our minimum standards that we as a nation should consider necessary in any detention facility. ist: are you concerned this handing over money to the trump administration that might go to aggressive tactics for arrests and deportations? how do you make sure this goes to

harry reid when he was democratic leader in the senate and former congresswoman elizabeth hoeltzman who served n the judiciary committee -- the ven diagram of various parts of the caucus, we should definitely have hearings about what this guy is up to and that's what we're getting next week. >> right. i think the real problem that the democrats face, well, people who care about democracy face, is that the witnesses who can tell the story are not showing up. and how do you get them? the really critical thing is to get the story of the mueller report to the american people. you can't hand a report to a jury and say, convict somebody. you've got to have live witnesses. and that's the problem here. the story of the mueller report hasn't been told to the american people. >> and it hasn't been told in the first person by the people there, like for instance don mcgahn. john dean, god bless him, but john dean was there 30 years ago, 40 years ago. >> correct. >> he wasn't there now. don mcgahn sitting up there, but they can't get him to come before the committee. >> right. s so what they're trying to do is figure out how to do that and that's a critical problem for nem. >> ada

. >> about a quarter of the democratic caucus that has come out for impeachment. it's not exactly a majority yet, but it's moving that way. manu raju, thanks very much. speaker pelosi was not asked about this in normandy to mark d-day, but when asked about another issue involving the president, she declined to say anything at all. >> i don't talk about the president when i leave the country as my principle. >> well, joining us now is a member of speaker pelosi's party, but also a member of jerry nadler's judiciary committee, congressman steve cohen of the great stay of tennessee. congressman, thanks for taking the time tonight. >> nice to be with you. >> so congressman cohen, you hear manu's new reporting, where does this leave house democrats now, particularly your committee, because any impeachment inquiry has to have speaker pelosi as leader of the party on board. but without her blessing, it's dead on arrival. >> the speaker is a very powerful individual in our system of government and in the house of representatives. nancy pelosi has got great strength and su

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the chair of the democratic caucus helped outline leadership's border strategy. without some version of immigration funding, alex azar says that the effect on hhs would be, quote, like a government shutdown. >>> help is coming immediately for nearly 250 migrant children held at a customs and border protections agency in clint, texas. these charn will be shifted into its shelter system by today. this comes days after cnn roshted on a team of lawyers, doctors and advocates warning of what they called major health and hygiene problems at that clint facility. our jay tapper asked vice president pence about those conditions. pence quickly pivoted to politics. as of june 10th there was a 60% increase from dhs to hhs. >>> we are counting down to the first democratic debate. round 1 is tomorrow night. it features elizabeth war represent and beto o'rourke center stage. o'rourke wants non-military households to help cover costs of health care for veterans of new wars. the first two debates offer the lower tiered candidates a chance to break out of the pack. most of them ha

it is sort of the coal mind of the democratic caucus. it is sort of what's called the plus three democratic district so it is just barely leading republicans but represented by a democrat. it could be an interesting sign sort of -- supporters are snow balling. does it become an avalanche? that's the point. that's where the speaker is right. she needs to have the support of her entire caucus and the american people. there is a vocal minority. but it is a strong majority that the democratic caucus is calling for. it is not clear it is there yet. >> chris, of course katy porter as a personality, her standing was kind of codified sitting next to bill mar for all the reasons eliot mentions about her district. maybe i put the question wrong. do you think nancy pelosi will give any greater standing and think, oh, orange county? >> maybe? i think she has her mind some where else rather than any districts or where her fella california stands. i think she's sticking with what is the message to have going into the election year. do we want to have i

she believes there say growing number of democrats within the caucus, alex, who like to see the impeachmentks begin in earnest. the question becomes whether or not that is something house speaker nancy pelosi is going to want to referee of sorts between her democratic caucus. i'm not sure that they are there as of now. what you heard from house judiciary committee jerry nadler from new york, they will be paramount on the topic. the biggest unknown is how much of impeachment talk is picked up on the campaign trail. not just in town halls or in iowa, but on the main debate stage in a few weeks. >> abigail, they wrote in the report they did not establish the president knew about or involved in the counsel's communication with flynn's counsel. what do you make of the part where dowd reminded the president's attorney of feelings toward him. what was the implication there? >> i think you are highlighting a critical point. the language how donald trump feels about mike flynn. you like this guy. maybe treat this guy well. let's have these conversations. it is a little bit of urging. i think it is a

and with that democratic caucus this president must be held accountable. to conduct oversight and follow theut facts. we will not let the president engage in a cover-up. so what is the best vehicle to do that? through normal oversight or the opening of the impeachment inquiry? what we really want is for the people to know the president directed individuals to create false documents to lie to investigators to prevent the investigation from going forwar forward. brett: even though the attorney general came to that conclusion and it was his decision to make according to the rules of the special counsel quick. >> no.o. the council says it is the responsibility of congress. we know that attorney general barr auditioned by completing a memorandum of law saying he could never be charged with edobstruction so the president hires him when he hears that and then he delivers on that product - - that promise to mischaracterize the report. >> so much so the special counsel saw the need to write a letter and hold a press conference to set the record straight the america

progressive members of the democratic caucus, members of the congressional hispanic caucus arguing with narrow leadership that that appropriations bill for the border supplemental did not go far enough to restrict how the administration would use money from congress to deal with the border crisis. democrats still up in arms today. it's unclear wlornhether or not leadership will be able to move forward with the vote, and that's just a piece of this puzzle. we have to move over to the senate as well. the senate appropriations committee last week had a bipartisan vote, 30-1, to pass their bill, their border supplemental bill that included $4.6 billion in funding and $2.88 billion in funding for the office of refugee resettlement. all of that passed out a committee, but it's still unclear when it will come to the floor for an actual vote, and time is running out because the office of refugee resettlement runs out of the money at the end of the week. there's no way to fund it any other way, except for congress to give them more money. a lot of questions remain about whether or not democrats

[ applause ] >> democrats picked up 40 seats in the house to claim the majority. a caucusreshmen representatives. nancy pelosi expected to lead them as house speaker. but many were looking for a fresh face at the helm. >> new questions about the future of democratic leadership in the house. a group of democrats say they have enough votes to block nancy pelosi. >> in my district, you have to hear what people are telling you. >> the detriments of nancy pel low in the minds of a lot of people is that she's been around the block a few too many times, that she's not a brand that extends beyond the democratic base. >> pelosi was able to quell the rebellion but at a cost. she agreed to step down as speaker in four years, a compromise that signalled the beginning of the end of her career. but also at 78, her unmatchable skills as a political survivor. >> this time she had to stitch together, you know, alliances among some people who initially said they wouldn't support her, but she got over 200 members of the caucus to get behind her. >> having once again asserted her control over

this is likely democratic caucus-goers. the iowa democratic party which runs the process here is changed their rules this cycle. they're allowing for both in-person attendance, the regular way we know about iowa caucusing, but also for the first time they're allowing for virtual caucusing for those people that can't participate on that monday night next february in their regularly scheduled in-person caucus. and it is weighted. 90% of the result is going to be based on that in-person attendance, the traditional way. 10% of that final result is going to be ascribed to everyone that comes to participate virtually. this poll, this cnn/des moines register poll account for those new rules and applies that weight. so this is the likely democratic caucus universe here. and you see here joe biden out in front. and you see a bunched-up race for second place there. we also asked about second choice, and which candidates, as you said, there are 23, that you're actively considering. this is such a telling number, ana. you see here, 61%

but, you know, there's nothing sacred in the democratic caucus. l with as the chairman of the caucus and reprimand my colleagues from time to time and say, you know, it's really important we keep the family discussion within the family. but inevitably, kasie, if it's hot enough, salacious enough, it will get out. >> so, again, who do you think is going to win this fight? do you think pelosi is going to win this fight or nadler? >> i don't think they're too far off the mark from each other. what nancy has been calling for is to further the investigation, jerry, do your job. elijah, do your job, et cetera. she wants all the committees to do their job and let the truth lead where it may. >> jake sherman, where is your reporting on this? you're in the hallways every day as well. is nancy pelosi going to come under so much pressure she's going to have to give or are we in for 18 months of this? >> i don't know how she's going to get through the next 18 months. literally i have no idea how she withstands this pressure. but time is really on her side in t

. >> phil, this is important in light of reporting that's emerging from inside the democratic caucus. this isn't going to be easy for the speaker who has her membership, and as a subset of that, a powerful one, these committee chairs. >> that's exactly right, brian. she is dealing with a very sort of difficult and ever-changing political situation within her own party, and it's troubling for president trump because there appears to be growing momentum among democrats to proceed with beginning impeachment proceedings, but there is not a majority within the democratic caucus to pursue impeachment. and you have in pelosi someone who is determined to do this in a methodical and slow way to avoid her party of being accused of a political witch hunt, of being too partisan in pursuing the president's impeachment. she's determined to wait for some evidence to come in. she wants to slow walk this, but she's also trying to show her members that she is at least somewhat in agreement with them. politico said she actually said in a closed meeting with some democrats of the house that she would lik

that is the view of the overwhelming majority of the house democratic caucus. he spent 22 months conducting an incredibly important investigation. there were three conclusions. russia attacked our democracy and interfered with our election for the sole purpose of artificially placing donald trump at 1600 pennsylvania venue. the trump campaign welcomed that cooperation. donald trump and others appear to have obstructed justice in connection with the investigation that was being conducted as it relates to the attack on our democracy. those are three serious conclusions. bob mueller has a duty to the american people to bring those conclusions to life in public testimony before the united states congress. reporter: after you pass this resolution this afternoon and you have the power to go to courts, how quickly do democrats plan to do that? will we see it immediately? yesterday the d.o.j. cooperating with chairman nadler. is there a sense you will allow them more time to do similar -- to do similar things and share some of these documents, or do you expect a mad ru

question, it robert mueller didn't cause a ground swell of support for impeachment inside the house democratic caucus anything? democratic congresswoman joins me now, house judiciary committee and one of the democrats who support an impeachment inquiry. good to see you. >> thank you for having me. >> do you feel -- are you surprised that there wasn't a greater number willing to go public about impeachment? here we are, one week removed from robert mueller's, at the time, stunning public remarks. >> chuck, no, i really wasn't. to begin an impeachment proceeding, process, is a major undertaking. for me as a former law enforcement officer i say it along with the majority of my colleagues in the very begin g beginning, let wait to see what is in the mueller report and kind of take our direction from that. well, after reading the report, i said two months ago and still say today i believe there is enough in that report to show that the president clearly obstructed justice, tried to prevent others from cooperating, persons around him lied, they've been indicted. i believe there's more than enough right now

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. >> when i first got elected to congress, one of the members of the democratic caucus who got electedortly after one of the first things she said was, "we are going to impeach the president." so they've talked about it since we got sworn into this congress. it's something that will grow and grow until speaker pelosi left to take action on it. >> harris: interesting. you just got back from the memorial day break and no doubt everyone is hearing from their constituents by the end of the week. we will cover what people are saying. congressman, thank you for joining me. >> thanks for having me. >> harris: new protests as the last remaining abortion provider in one state tries to stay open. the latest in a closely watched court battle there, with passions running high, as you balanced nutrition for strength and energy! whoo-hoo! great-tasting ensure. with nine grams of protein and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. ensure, for strength and energy. and twenty-six vitamins and minerals. front slams on his the hbrakes out of nowhere. you do, too, but not in time. hey, no big deal. you've got a

lawmakers have it back if they keep the time line mp the chair of the house democratic caucus recently outlined the border strategy. >> you should provide the humanitarian assistance necessary to change the conditions, particularly as it relate to that so we don't fund the reckless immigration screen. >>> alex cesar says the effect on hhs would be like a government shutdown. >>> help is coming immediately for nearly 250 migrant children held at the customs and border protection facility in clint, mexico. jake tapper asked vice president p pence. >>> we have known give toothpaste, soap, blankets we would. >> of course we do. >> why aren't we? >> my point is, it's all a part of the appropriations process. congress needs to provide additional support to deal with the crisis at the southern border. >> as of june 10th, more than 52,000 unaccompanied children have been transferred from dhs to hhs. that's a 60% increase over last year. >>> an extraordinary denial by the president in the face of a rape allegation. according to the president, writer e. june carol assaulted her. i'll saw it with

you're seeing some restlessness amongst the democratic caucus in the house saying, you know, we havell this evidence, mueller came out and said his hands were tied, he was not able to do anything about president trump's potential crimes, now it falls to congress to take action. you also have house speaker nancy pelosi basically saying we're not there yet, we need to continue our investigations, spend some more time, gather our evidence before we move forward with impeachment. you did hear from a top leader in the democratic caucus yesterday, jim clyburn, said he believes were on a path to impeachment, but they want to make their time and make sure they have all their ducks within a row. it's interesting to see the leaders, not just the rank and file, start to get on board with impeachment. i think president trump is very aware that impeachment is more likely than not based on those comments from the leadership. >> coming here, really getting away from all of it. you mentioned 2020. how much do you think this visit will help him in the bid for the 2020 election? >> when i've spoken to

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anything that might unify the democratic caucus is something they might welcome. but the rhetorical battle is certainly escalating. >> all of this comes, phil, as house democrats are adding yet more hearings on the mueller report and the attorney general, william barr, faces two separate actions from the hill next week. what's the strategy? >> wolf, next week is going to provide a crystal-clear window into speaker pelosi and her top deputy's strategy in terms of their non-impeachment investigation proceedings. on monday, the house judiciary committee will hold their first hearings on the mueller report. the house intelligence committee is planning to hold a hearing on the intelligence -- the underlying intelligence section and counterintelligence piece of the mueller report they announced today with two former fbi officials coming into testify. you have the full house contempt voice for attorney general william barr on tuesday, where they will officially find him in contempt of the whole house. don mcgahn, the former white house counsel will also be voted on, on t

>> yeah, right, there is clearly friction within the democratic caucus on how to proceed here. what i think nancy pelosi on the same day shared was that this is still a divisive issue and the public needs more education and the polling backs her up on this, right? among -- while there is great support among democrats, only 27% of the country according to an nbc poll is actually ready to move forward, whereas there is far more support for conducting investigations and getting additional information. >> yeah, and the examples there are the support for nixon's removal increased as the process played outgoing forward. now, catty, as you know, donald trump is a famously obsessed with history, a real history buff. >> huh, what are you suggesting there, ari? >> take a listen. maybe he's only interested in self-preservational historical lessons. now that the mug mueller thing in his view is done, he had a take, hot historical take what is to be learned from the nixon saturday night massacre. take a look. >> robert mueller had a total -- i didn't say that. article 2 would have allowed m

senate by the democratic caucus, his fellow caucus members?it was his decision to make, but it think the way we basically held him to a higher standard than the gop does their people has been used against us. >> do you think he should have been pushed to leave? >> again, it was his decision. i think that -- >> but i'm not asking you about his decision. should the other members of the democratic caucus in the senate starting at the top, chuck schumer down and the other people who pushed him to get out, they put a lot of pressure on him to leave, were they right or wrong? >> well, it's not a bad thing that we hold ourselves to a higher standard. >> were they right to do that, to push him out of the senate because they did? >> i would not have applied that amount of pressure at that time before we knew more. >> okay. >> welcome, mayor pete. i wanted to thank you for your service. >> thank you. >> and also on that sort of topic, ask you if you had been in the u.s. senate in 2002, would you have voted along with senators biden and clinton to go int

. >> she is looking at the overall democratic caucus.inly when you look at the overall caucus there are different places in time. there are those who believe impeachment should start immediately. those who believe proceedings should start. those who believe that investigations need to continue to get to the truth. the underlying facts which is what i believe in and those who want to pump the brakes further than that it's a process we are going through. first and foremost we need to make sure that these investigations continue. >> martha: all right. that's what jerry nadler is doing. he wants it as quickly as possible you, he said. in court. for the witnesses subpoenaed. is he going after bill barr as we negotiation don mcgahn as we mentioned. it's interesting when you look at the campaign trail and we talked a lot about joe biden, joe biden, back in 1995, said this on the senate judiciary committee about this same attorney general. he said, as you know, as i know you know but others should know, too. i truly enjoyed working with you when

but those are still in the minority of the house democratic caucus. at the moment nancy pelosi is unmoved and she doesn't believe this is the way to go. she believes the investigative route is the way to go and believes a fight in the courts to get information will ultimately be successful and she worries an impeachment inquiry would lead to a vote on articles of impeachment only rejected by the republican-led senate and she doesn't want to give what she believes is a political upper hand to president trump. but will she be moved if more and more members come out to support an impeachment inquiry and that is a question only determined in the weeks ahead. >> and later in "the situation room" i'll speak life with congressman heims and understand why he's made this dramatic move. manu raju on capitol hill. thank you very much. >>> and joining us now congressman anthony brow erd of maryland. congressman, thank you so much for joining us. >> great to be with you. >> i want to get your thoughts on the latest developments involving iran in just a moment but

the members of the house of representatives, at least with the majority of the members of the democratic caucus. i will say something -- i want to make one thing absolutely clear. i believe the president of the united states should be impeached by the house of representatives. i believe there is sufficient evidence to impeach the president of the united states. and i stand wholeheartedly with mr. nadler and his pursuit of that goal. >> right. >> and fulfilling his constitutional responsibilities. >> all right. let me just play, scott, again, though this pregnant pause with -- when wolf asked nadler about this. and by the way, this was before, you know, we had the reporting about what happened in the room. so wolf is just asking. and this is, again, the moment. >> are you on the same page with the speaker nancy pelosi when it comes to impeachment? >> as i said, we are launching an inquiry now. and whether we launch an impeachment inquiry -- it may come to that. it may come to that. >> scott, is nancy pelosi in a tenable position at this point? is she going to be able to hold this dam back? sorry

senate by the democratic caucus, his fellow caucus members?ink the way we basically held him to a higher standard than the gop does their people has been used against us. >> do you think he should have been pushed to leave? >> again, it was his decision. i think that -- >> but i'm not asking you about his decision. should the other members of the democratic caucus in the senate starting at the top, chuck schumer down and the other people who pushed him to get out, they put a lot of pressure on him to leave, were they right or wrong? >> well, it's not a bad thing that we hold ourselves to a higher standard. >> i know, but were they right to do that, to push him out of the senate because they did? >> i would not have applied that amount of pressure at that time before we knew more. >> thank you. sally? >> welcome, mayor pete. i wanted to thank you for your service. >> thank you. >> and also on that sort of topic, ask you if you had been in the u.s. senate in 2002, would you have voted along with senators biden and clinton to go into the iraq war

there was some disagreement, a bit of a discussion within the democratic caucus, i would say revolting is too strong in describing some of the distress within the democratic caucus, but it is important to point out that they weren't all on the same page. speaker pelosi says they need to be because she believes if this bill were to fail, that would in effect be a win for president trump, and she told her members that according to senior democratic aides, so what they've tried to do is make some changes to address some of the concerns the democrats have, to try to make it possible for members of congress to visit without any particular notice some of these facilities, to be able to do the kind of oversight that you've just been talking about being so needed and so lacking at the moment. there are concerns among democrats about this funding being used in some other way by the administration to carry out parts of the president's policies. the democrats so strongly disagree with, and democrats who have been working on this process have been trying to put in the kinds of guardrails within th

should the other members of the democratic caucus starting at the top, chuck schumer down and pushed, a lot of pressure to leave, were they right or wrong? >> it's not a bad thing we hold ourselves to a higher standard. >> were they right to do that to push him out of the stenate because he did. >> i would not have applied that pressure at the time. >> that was dangerous. he said democrats should apply a lower standard with harassment of women. he saved himself at the end. he saved himself at the end saying that's not a bad thing we do that. that prompted a response from senator gillibrand, #metoo, sexual harassment, has been a leading issue for her. every -- she's the one that sort of owns the franken resignation, although he decided on his own to do this. >> exactly. >> is it fair she owns it? it's not fair she owns it. he resigned. he could have stayed. there could have been a senate ethics investigation. he made a decision to leave. i understand he may try to come back to politics. he may have found hits path is a better way to have rehabilitation than if he stayed. he made that

house democratic caucus. with owl of our members and all of you, we are the house republicans' worst nightmare. [cheers & applause] and together, we get to spend a lot of time. >> they are doing all they can from -- to stop us democrats gain the majority. but we are not going to let them, are we? >> we can hear you. are we going to let them? >> speaking of no, we have heard a lot of that last year from the house republicans. we were stuck on so many fronts by the republican majority. >> a majority selected out of a ball. >> we heard no so many times. >> no on the environment and environmental justice. >> no on making it easier to vote. >> no on an increased minimum wage. >> no on workers rights. >> no on discrimination. >> no on women's health care and affordable reproductive rights. >> they even said no to making virginia the 38th state needed to ratify they call rights amendment. >> so how about we start saying yes? [cheers & applause] >> yes to each and every one of these most important issues. >> we have

he is the chairman of the house democratic caucus and a member of the house judiciary committee. thank you very much for joining us tonight, congressman jeffries. chairman schiff told rachel maddow in the last hour that this is not to be considered a friendly subpoena, that this subpoena then is something that robert mueller did not want to have to comply with, but apparently has agreed to comply with it. is that your understanding of it? >> that's my understanding. at the end of the day, bob mueller is a company man. he had expressed publicly his reluctance to testify, indicated when he gave his remarks a few weeks ago that that was the first time the american people would likely hear from him. we as house democrats led by chairman nadler and chairman schiff have made clear that we believe the issues connected to the mueller report were so serious that it was important for the special counsel to tell his story publicly to the american people. we were determined to bring that about. thanks to the leadership of our two chairmen, united behind the house democratic caucus and our ob