exactly as you say, there are four duplessis roots to people or suspend you think that if you're going to be hit with a foreign object then you would have some right to a hearing but that is not how the supreme court of the united states saw it. it is a very difficult decision to explain the best effort that i been able to come up with is that there is a real rising fear of litigation that exists there and part of it may be attributable to the eway that i ingram, at the time, the claim of those who were challenging corporal punishment was not that all corporal punishment is impermissible in that it violates the eighth amendment. instead, was a more limited claim the only extreme instances of corporal punishment violate the constitution. they were able to take advantage of the say how much is extreme, is it to lecture three legs? so the court fears about being dragged into this area. she said i think it is an unusual sort of incense rose supreme court sort of turns tail relatively quickly. although it is not generous there is another pair of cases from the 1940s where the court did make