my former colleague, jake, teamed up, unlikely though it may have been, with alice barkley to solve this almost 20 years ago. but i think we all know that there is a problem. we all want to stop these types of demolitions. we have attempted in this legislation to incentafize it. whether it is higher densities that we're seeing throughout the city -- i will be the first to admit that perhaps i have bit off a little more than we can all chew here. but what i would like for you and the public and my somewhat dejected staff to do is to really figure out a way where two siloized departments, building and planning, can work better to stem the tide of the demolition of sound housing, which is the most affordable housing that we have. if you have better ideas, we want to hear it. but there is a problem, and we can all come together to fix it, whether it is as simple as vastly increasing fines an andpenalties for bad behavior -- the vast majority play by the rules. but there are a handful of player who soil it for everybody. i know, mr. mccarthy, you don't condone it. but we have to find a way to