>> well, lois lerner was contemptuous of congress. eric holder, 400 days -- by one of the documents, not the drama. keep in mind we were still looking for the documents in 2018 long after holder and president obama were gone, we still one of the documents. 100 days. with respect to wilbur ross on the census, i think the administration mishandled it and they do have some explaining to do. it would be nice to explain it in front of a fair jury that has made up its mind. before mueller has issued a single consonant or vowel in his report, that ain't a fair jury. the one they wrote a letter together asking congress essentially to sort of discuss it further, to open a dialogue. to have an opportunity to go further. some look at the situation, say nancy pelosi doesn't want to go through the impeachment process with president trump. she sees that as a political pattern. the consort of a piece some of those that would like her to go down that road, but keep that whole story alive. >> there some of that that goes on on both sides. remember joh