national arc iverson then did -- i was no longer there. i had a sense of what was done.ves went to preservation work on the tapes. digitized them, and then they started a review, they went back to the redactions, the withdrawn parts from the earliest tapes. and i learned again, now, as a private researcher, that private research researchers could request certain conversations. when i was at the national arc iverson, i heard there was a racist conversation between ronald reagan which was a surprise, and richard nixon, which was not a srp. i didn't hear the conversation, it wasn't part of my job to go back and listen to it, i made a point to find out if someone had requested it, no one had requested it, and so i requested -- i didn't know exactly which one it would be, i requested the ronald reagan, richard nixon conversations last year, just after i heard that the national arc iverson was doing these reviews, and they released them this summer, and they released them at a very interesting time. it's a coincidence, given our national conversation about presidential racism,