now peter bowes joins me for more in the us. lly essentially seen a tit—for—tat essentially, an escalating tit—for—tat between iran and the us. yes. this seems to have been going on for a number of weeks. especially in relation to the drones that we've been hearing about and president trump, according to his own words said we came within ten minutes, the us came within ten minutes of launching a military action against iran after shooting down one of america's drones. in the last few days the us saying it destroyed one of iran's drones although iran says it doesn't know anything about it. so, certainly, yes, a tit—for—tat feeling about what is going on. but the events of his last few hours really seem to have ratcheted up the tensions that exist not only between the us and iran but also tensions between iran and the united kingdom. what we heard from president trump, how he is standing by the united kingdom describing that close relationship and the uk is a close ally, talking about the military vessels the us has in the region a

lets get more from our north america correspondent peter bowes in los angeles. ce of dan coats stepping down? it's no secret that dan coats and the president haven't seen i too i ona number of the president haven't seen i too i on a number of issues over the past few months, north korea and russia in particular. also the president has publicly contradicted some of the advice that he's clearly received from his intelligence chiefs. then there was an incident about a year ago, mr coats was speaking in the state of colorado at a 0&a speaking in the state of colorado at a q&a session, this was on live television, and he was given the news, just breaking at the time, at the white house was inviting president putin to a meeting at the white house at some point undetermined in the future to have discussions with the president, and it was mr coats's response to that, it was mr coats's response to that, it clearly took him by surprise, and he said, ok, that's going to be special. he said he looked rather bemused, he said after he didn't mean disrespect but the seeds were

let speak to peter bowes, who is in north america for us. e about what this senior general is proposing. general dunford said he wants to set up what he's describing as an international military coalition to ensure freedom of navigation through those crucial waters around iran and yemen. of course, crucial waters for international trade. the idea is the us would provide command and control ships and the hope is other nations with the political will to be involved in this will provide votes to set up patrols between those major ships, larger to set up patrols between those majorships, largerships to set up patrols between those major ships, larger ships provided by the united states stop either current stage of this process is the us is apparently looking at the military and options of other nations willing to be involved to assess what they can contribute to this. it may well, he says, start quite small with a relatively small number of nations taking part but could grow over time considering, as i mentioned, the crucial importance of those w

peter bowes, our north american correspondent there.l have more on those developments we will have more on those developments between iran, the uk and the us in a few minutes. let's get some of the day's other news. the prime minister of kosovo has resigned after an eu—backed war crimes court summoned him for questioning as a suspect. ramush haradinaj led the kosovo liberation army during the war for independence from serbia twenty years ago. he's been tried and acquitted twice by a separate, united nations war crimes tribunal at the hague. at least two people have been killed and 18 wounded after an explosion at a gas plant on friday afternoon in china's henan province. mobile phone footage showed billowing smoke rise from the blast site, as well as shattered windows on nearby buildings. an investigation into the cause of the blast is underway. aid agencies are calling on the world to speed up its response to the ebola emergency in the democratic republic of the congo. more than 1,700 people have already died there — and the world heal

joining me now is our north america correspondent peter bowes.dent clearly been kept informed of what is going on. yes, he was quick to respond to the events of the last few hours. he was leaving the white house for his weekend retreat and he was asked about what had happened in the gulf. and he referred to the special relationship, the long—term special relationship, the long—term special relationship between the us and the uk which he described as a close ally. he said the us had plenty of military ships in the region and, by implication, was offering whatever help the us could give to the uk in this situation. and, of course, tensions have been rising considerably in the last few days, indeed, months, in the us —— between the us and iran, war of words over drones and according to mr trump just last month the us came within about ten minutes of a military strike after iran shot down one of its drones and in the last few days the us claiming to have shot down an iranian drone, although the iranians say they have no knowledge of that. in london w

peter bowes has more. this ain't my authority. the same charges that you had before?. a publicist under attack. his music star client behind bars. demanding answers, the family of a woman who lived with r kelly in chicago. it follows the latest arrest of the singer, who is facing a string of fresh charges in chicago and new york. kelly and members of his entourage are accused of recruiting women and girls to engage in illegal sexual activity with the r&b singer. he is also accused of later paying victims and witnesses to cover up his alleged crimes. these are the latest sex charges to face the embattled musician, who has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. last year, a documentary alleged that the singer was holding women against their will and running a sex cult. during a sometimes combative interview earlier this year, kelly said the allegations against him were all lies. how stupid would it be for me, with my crazy past, and what i've been through? oh, right now right now ijust think i need to be a monster and hold girls against their will, chain them up in my baseme

our north american correspondent peter bowes joins us for more on this. s policy differfrom so peter, how does this policy differ from how it has been? well, this is definitely a widening of the net. so far, this fast—track deportation policy has applied only to people who had been in this country for to people who had been in this cou ntry for less to people who had been in this country for less than two weeks, and we re country for less than two weeks, and were detained within 160 kilometres of the were detained within160 kilometres of the us — southern border, the border with mexico. from today, those people could be detained anywhere in the united states, and as you say, they would have to prove that they had been in the country for more than two years to avoid that. and critics are saying that that. and critics are saying that that could potentially be a very difficult thing people to do, that they wouldn't necessarily have the paperwork to prove that they'd been in the united states for that length of time. so it is already getting criticism. can tho

here's our north america correspondent peter bowes.n is to put together a coalition of nations providing military escorts to commercial shipping in the gulf. the us navy's fifth fleet said it was working closely with the royal navy as well as regional and global partners to preserve and defend the freedom of navigation. on wednesday, three iranian boats tried to block a british—flagged tanker passing through the strait of hormuz. donald trump's nomination to become chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the most senior officer in the us armed forces, said the intention was to move quickly with a joint effort. freedom of navigation is a fundamental principle and a norm for the international order, it has been in place for seven decades and we have a crucial role to enforce that norm. so what we're trying to do with the coalition to put that together in terms of providing military naval escort to commercial shipping may be an important factor and i think that will develop over the next few weeks. the tension with iran has risen because o

our north america correspondent peter bowes has been following this story for us.t impact sir kim darroch's resignation has had in the united states. for many people around this country, this has not been headline news. some see it as just another day in the trump administration or perhaps the consequences of what happens within the trump administration. it began with critical comments by the ambassador that were leaked and donald trump reacted in the way that only he can. but many americans are used to that and those initial comments criticising the dysfunctional white house, americans have heard those before. analysts have talked and written books about it and those sentiments are well—known. we have not heard from donald trump since the ambassador‘s resignation. we have heard from the vice president, mike pence who said that, to paraphrase him, said that it was probably the right decision to go because he had become ineffectual in the role. and what about the united states mending fences with the uk? that is the bigger question. a hugely important question becau

our north american correspondent peter bowes has more.nd the president haven't seen eye—to—eye on a number of issues over the past few months, north korea and russia in particular, and also the president has publicly contradicted some of the advice that he's clearly received from his intelligence chiefs. then there was an incident about a year ago, mr coats was speaking in the state of colorado at a q&a session, this was on live television, and he was given the news, just breaking at the time, that the white house was inviting president putin to a meeting at the white house at some point undetermined in the future to have discussions with the president, and it was mr coats' response to that, it clearly took him by surprise, and he said, "ok, that's going to be special." he said he looked rather bemused. he did later apologise and said he didn't mean any disrespect, but i think the seeds were sown at that stage for what was clearly going to be a deteriorating relationship with the president. so not an uneventful time in thejob. the man don

our north america correspondent peter bowes reports. changing tack but not backing down.ant to admit defeat, donald trump said he was abandoning a question about citizenship on the 2020 senses. he blamed litigation and a protracted legal process. bring his original plans. the timeline for resolving it in the courts was too tight to get the census ready. he said he had a new way to count the noncitizen population. i am hereby ordering every department in the government to provide the department of commerce with all records including the number of citizens and noncitizens in our country. they must furnish all legally accessible records in their possession immediately. mr trump said it was essential to have a clear breakdown of us populations. we will provide databases to gain a full and accurate account of the noncitizen population, we have great knowledge in many of our agencies, we will leave no stone unturned. the battle to get the citizenship question taken off the census form has played out across america. civil rights groups has said it would be an attack of people of

peter bowes is our north american correspondent. peter, what more do you know?l, this is a three—day event. it was just coming to a close. it is an event which has gone on for many decades. tens of thousands of people in attendance. as it was beginning to close, eyewitnesses described hearing, and some report seeing, a gunman opened fire on the crowd, with people falling to the ground and running for their lives, with people falling to the ground and running fortheir lives, running to safety. a number of people, we know, it has been confirmed by local hospitals, have been taken in for treatment. in the past our comedy police have said that the area is still being treated as an active crime scene. —— the past hour, police have said. that may mean that they are still looking for the person or persons, we do not know if only one person was responsible for this. it is still clearly a sensitive and potentially dangerous situation. many, many people, those festival—goers, are still milling around. this was the kind of event where people would go and count in their car

peter bowes is our north america correspondent. peter, what is behind this, would you say?appears to be a sign that president trump is becoming increasingly impatient over a lack of progress in afghanistan over the last couple of years, and he has a lwa ys last couple of years, and he has always made it well—known that he prefers to, as he puts it, to end these endless wars, and of course, this is currently america's longest war. he would rather be taking troops out and putting troops in all living with the status quo. and i think the key in terms of the phrase, what mike pompeo was talking about today, he was asked whether us forces would begin to come out before the next presidential election. and i think that is significant that that is what donald trump has focused in on, because it has been a long—time promise of his. it is sure to win him votes or solidify votes on his base next november. people are going to the polls to decide if he gets a second term, and they see that us forces are beginning to come out of afghanistan, it could only be seen asa afghanistan, it coul

our north america correspondent, peter bowes, assesses what the plans might mean.ump is becoming increasingly impatient over a lack of progress in afghanistan over the last couple of years. and he has always made it well—known that he prefers to, as he puts it, to end these endless wars, and of course, this is currently america's longest war. he would rather be taking troops out than putting troops in, or living with the status quo. and i think the key, in terms of the phrase of what mike pompeo was talking about today, he was asked whether us forces would begin to come out before the next presidential election. and i think that's significant, that that is what donald trump has focused in on, because it has been a long—time promise of his. it is sure to win him votes or solidify votes on his base come next november. if people are going to the polls to decide if he gets a second term, and they see that us forces are beginning to come out all of afghanistan, it could only be seen as a positive for the president, or indeed, as mr pompeo put it, job—enhancing. five yea

the bbc‘s peter bowes is in los angeles. he explained more from there.of dodging the bullet. the local police chief in the town most badly affected in the town very close to the epicentre has said it is difficult for the wa nt to has said it is difficult for the want to understand what we have been through in the past 48 hours and what he is getting at is the fact there have been no significant casualties, all the buildings are still standing, yes there has been some structural damage and for the people there living, this was terrifying, 7.1 is a huge earthquake. i felt it in los angeles, 150 miles away. there were pictures falling off the wall in my home. you can only imagine what it was like for those people at the epicentre, but amazingly local officials say everyone is ok. iran says it will start to enrich uranium to closer to weapon grade level, if european countries don't find a way to save the nuclear deal by sunday. the us has pulled out of the deal and introduced new sanctions. the reuters news agency is reporting that iran will go 5% above the

here is our north america correspondent peter bowes.appears to be a sign that president trump is increasingly impatient over a lack of progress over the last two years. he has a lwa ys over the last two years. he has always made it well—known, as he puts it, that he prefers to end these endless wars. and this is currently america's longest war. he would rather be taking troops out than putting troops in or living with the status quo. i think the key is in terms of this phrase, he would like forces to come out before the next election. i think that is significant, that that is what donald trump has focused in on, because it has been a long—time promise of his. it is shorter when him promise of his. it is shorter when hi m votes promise of his. it is shorter when him votes or solidify votes on face, if come next november people are going to the polls to decide whether he gets a second term nac that us forces are beginning to come out of afghanistan. it could only be seen asa afghanistan. it could only be seen as a positive for the preside

peter bowes reports. this tanker, the british heritage tanker was passing through the area. cross the strait of hormuz when there was an attempt to intercept it by these five iranians votes who were ordering it to change its direction. but the boat, the british warship that was escorting the tanker then trained its guns on the tanker then trained its guns on the uranian boat and ordered them to back off and they heeded the order, backing off and no shots were fired. the british tanker was allowed to go on its way. we had a short statement from the pentagon, the ministry of defence in the united states, confirming that they are aware of these were courts, not adding any additional detail and still waiting for more details from the british ministry of defence. jeremy cook, founder of complete currency consulting, joins me now. give us your take on this story. this is another development in what has been going on there for some weeks and months. it has led to a lot of heightened tensions in the region. the headlines around this harassment, let's say, of a british oil tanker and

peter bowes is watching the situation from the us. understand it this tanker, this british heritage tanker was passing through the area, it was just about to cross the strait of hormuz, when it was, at least there was an attempt to intercept it by these five iranian boats who were ordering it to change its direction but the boat, the british warship that was escorting the tanker, then trained its guns on the iranian boats and ordered them to back off, and they heeded that order, they did indeed back off, no shots were fired. the tanker, the british tanker was allowed to go on its way. we have had a short statement from the pentagon, the ministry of defence and the states, confirming they are aware of the reports, not adding any additional detail, still waiting, hoping for more information from the british ministry of defence. give us a sense of the bigger picture here. this might be related to an incident last week when an iranian supertanker was intercepted with the help of british royal marines off gibraltar, suspected of taking oil

peter bowes has the details. r kelly is in there right now. i wa nt r kelly is in there right now.there right now. i wantand are r kelly is in there right now. i want and are my daughters. a publicist under attack, his music star client behind bars. demanding a nswe rs star client behind bars. demanding answers the family of a woman who lived with artillery in chicago. it follows the latest arrest who is facing a string of fresh charges in chicago and new york. kelly and members of his entourage are accused of recruiting women and girls to engage in illegal sexual activity with the r&b singer. he's also accused of paying victims and witnesses to cover his alleged crimes. these are the latest sex charges to face the embattled musician who has repeatedly denied any wrongdoing. last year, a documentary alleged that the singer was holding women against their will and running a sex cult. during a sometimes combative interview this year, he said the allegations against him were all lies. you'll make how stupid would it be for me, with my crazy past and what i've been through right now, i

our north america correspondent, peter bowes, explains why the citizenship issue is such a politicisedsial issue, and so important to president trump. it has become increasingly political and of course it is hugely important who is counted in the census, traditionally, it has been citizens and non—citizens, it is a count of a number of people in the country, it's important for allocating funds to different areas, allocating seats in the house of representatives, and the fact that the president is not getting his way of having that key question on the census form, has actually delighted a lot of his opponents, there were fears, indeed the census bureau themselves said that if the question were on there, it would result result in fewer people filling out the census form and the end result would be rather skewed in terms of its effectiveness and accuracy. a lot of people are delighted that the president hasn't got his way with the form, what he's doing is changing tack, he's trying to. it's important to point out that this executive order isn't usurping what the supreme court said, it is

let's get more on this from our north america corrrespondent peter bowes.t his way with the government but he is determined to circumnavigate, isn't he? why is this issue so important? it is important to the president because clearly illegal immigration and the number of people in this country without the relevant papers to make them legal citizens is a key issue for president trump and it has been since his campaign almost three yea rs since his campaign almost three years ago. that is why it is important to him and it would have been a political statement to get that question, is this person a citizen of the united states on the census love —— next year. he started his news conference by saying he was not backing down on the issue but he has conceded that various legal challenges make it difficult from a timing perspective to get that sense is ready for next year. he has a plan b, to use existing data from government departments that he mentioned, social security administration and the irs, data that exists on everyone in this country to try and collate i

our north america correspondent, peter bowes, has more details on donald trump's reaction to this longthink this shows that president trump is becoming increasingly frustrated over afghanistan. relatively little progress over the last few years. he once referred to his gut instincts which would have been to probably pull troops out of afghanistan some time ago. and now with mr pompeo being asked a specific question about whether it was the intention of the united states to withdraw troops by the next presidential election, which is november of next year. he said that that was the specific directive from the president. inserting into that phrase the presidential election suggests a political motive here to some extent that this is something that donald trump has long since promised. he often talked about wanting to end all the endless war and this is the ultimate endless war, referring to the billions of dollars that stationing troops in afghanistan costs the us. and it seems the president is increasingly keen to see some progress by the time he goes to the american public and asks for

joining us now for more on this is our north america correspondent peter bowes. details are limited, no comment at the moment from the british mystery of defence, what are you hearing and tell something more about the background of this very tense time in that region. you're right, and is extremely tense. these potentially five iranians boats approach the british heritage as it was moving out of the persian gulf is crossing into the strait of hormuz. under the tango, is crossing into the strait of hormuz. underthe tango, itself is crossing into the strait of hormuz. under the tango, itself was being escorted by a frigate and it was the guns on that frigate that we re was the guns on that frigate that were trained at the tabernacle were given a warning to back off and no shots were fired, they did a golf in the tanker was allowed on its way. the background to this is that about a week ago, a iranian supertanker was intercepted and seized of the coast of gibraltar with the help of british royal marines on that vessel was suspected of taking oil from iran to syria w

live to los angeles — and our correspondent peter bowes.police chief, it sounds as if people in that area we re very sounds as if people in that area were very lucky indeed. yes, this is a earthquake country, it is living up to its name, but this is a story of dodging the bullet. as we heard, it is amazing that no one was seriously hurt. all the buildings are still standing. there is some considerable structural damage and assessment of thatis structural damage and assessment of that is going on. but the fact no one has been seriously hurt in a 7.1 magnitude quake is quite extraordinary. i am 150 miles away andi extraordinary. i am 150 miles away and i felt it in extraordinary. i am 150 miles away and ifelt it in los extraordinary. i am 150 miles away and i felt it in los angeles. pictures were falling in my house, you can imagine what it was like closer to the epicentre. it was felt as far afield as nevada, palm springs, and in hollywood and beverly hills. the people of that community are extremely lucky today, it could have been far worse

sophie long, bbc news, los angeles. 0ur correspondent peter bowes is in los angeles and gave us thisake country. it is living up to its name but this is a story of dodging the bullet. as we have just heard, it is amazing that no—one was seriously hurt. all the buildings are still standing. there is some considerable structural damage and an assessment of that damage and an assessment of that damage is still going on and will go on for quite some time. but the fact that no—one has been seriously hurt ina 7.1 that no—one has been seriously hurt in a 7.1 magnitude quake is quite extraordinary. i'm hundred and 15 miles away, i felt it in los angeles. pictures were falling in my house, you can only imagine what it was like to be ——to be near the epicentre. it was as wide as nevada, palm springs and los angeles and as we have just heard, beverly hills and hollywood. it could have been far worse, these people are extremely lucky today. when you look at the after—effects of it and, trying to get things back on track again, how do they come across to you? are again, how do they come across to

sustained some major damage but they are still standing, so that has been amazing. 0ur correspondent peter bowes and a little earlier he gave me this update. this is earthquake country, it is living up to its name but this is a story of dodging the bullet. as we have just heard, it is amazing that no one was seriously hurt. all the buildings are still standing, there is some considerable structural damage and assessment of that damage is still going on and will go on for quite some time, but the fact that no one has been seriously hurt in a 7.1 magnitude quake is quite extraordinary. i am 150 miles away, i felt it extraordinary. i am 150 miles away, ifelt it in extraordinary. i am 150 miles away, i felt it in los angeles. pictures we re i felt it in los angeles. pictures were fawning in my house, you can only imagine what it was like to be close to the epicentre. it was that very well the field, los las vegas but the people of that community are extremely lucky today, it could have been far worse. when you look at the after effects of it and sort are trying to get things back on track again, how

the bbc‘s correspondent, peter bowes, is in los angeles. tell us what happened, peter.r. this is a three—day event. it was just drawings to close when festival—goers and eyewitnesses described to us what happened, they heard gunshots, they saw people leaping to the ground, others drove into the back of pickup trucks. did anything possible to get to safety. by anything possible to get to safety. by all accounts, a terrifying scene as this festival was closing. it is as this festival was closing. it is a very well—known food festival, a garlic festival, there are competitions, food of course taking centre place and there is live music as well. it is meant to be a fun weekend event and we are hearing from the police that it is still an active crime scene and that suggests that they may well not have caught the person or persons, we do not know on that, the person or persons responsible for carrying out the shooting. we know a number of people have been taken to hospital. at least one man is said to be in a critical condition, and this investigation certainly in california

waterway is of crucial economic importance because it carries a fifth of the world's oil exports as peter bowese plan is to put together a coalition of nations providing military escorts to commercial shipping in the golf. the us navy fleet said it was working closely with the royal navy as well as regional and global partners to preserve and defend the freedom of navigation. on wednesday, three iranians boats tried to block a british flag tanker passing through the strait of hormuz. donald trump's nomination to become chairman of the joint chiefs of staff said he wanted to move quickly. it is a fundamental norm for the international order, it has been our device for seven decades and we have a crucial role to enforce that norm. what we're trying to do with the coalition to put that together in terms of providing military naval escort to commercial shipping may be an important factor and i think that will develop over the next few weeks. the tension with iran has risen because of crippling economic sanctions which donald trump imposed on the country after the united states pulled out of a deal

here's our north america correspondent peter bowes.together a coalition of nations providing military escorts to commercial shipping in the gulf. the us navy's fifth fleet said it was working closely with the royal navy as well as regional and global partners to preserve and defend the freedom of navigation. on wednesday, three iranian boats tried to block a british—flagged tanker passing through the strait of hormuz. donald trump's nomination to become chairman of the joint chiefs of staff, the most senior officer in the us armed forces, said the intention was to move quickly with a joint effort. freedom of navigation is a fundamental principle and a norm for the international order, it has been in place for seven decades and we have a crucial role to enforce that norm. so what we're trying to do with the coalition to put that together in terms of providing military naval escort to commercial shipping may be an important factor and i think that will develop over the next few weeks. the tension with iran has risen because of crippling

for more details, here's our north american correspondent, peter bowes.o far, this fast—track deportation policy has applied only to people who had been in this country for less than two weeks and were detained within 160 kilometres of the us southern border, the border with mexico. from today people could be detained anywhere in the united states. they would have to prove that they had been in the country for more than two years to avoid that. and critics are saying that could potentially be a very difficult thing for people to do, that they wouldn't necessarily have the paperwork to prove that they'd been in the united states for that length of time. the civil rights organisations are saying they will sue the us government. this is something, of course, that has happened repeatedly in terms of trump administration policy on immigration. so it looks like this will be played out in the courts. the administration will argue that this policy allows them to round up illegal immigrants in large numbers. they will also argue that it will ease the pressure on t

peter bowes has this report on the latest incident. growing tensions in the persian gulf.n royal marines helped officials in gibraltar seize an iranian supertanker last week, tehran said it was a form of piracy and that a british oil tanker should be seized if the iranian ship is not released. it was suspected of carrying oil from iran to syria, in breach of eu sanctions. "you will realise the consequences", said president hassan rouhani. translation: you, britain, are the initiator of insecurity and you will realise the consequences later. now you are so hopeless that when one of your tankers wants to move in the region, you have to bring your frigates to escort it, because you are scared. less than a week later, there's been a confrontation in the persian gulf that looks like retaliation. five armed iranian boats attempted to seize a british tanker before backing off when confronted by a warship. no shots were fired. in a statement, the us defence department said it was aware of reports of "harassment and attempts to interfere with the passage of the uk—flagged merchant

. —— peter bowes. growing tensions in the gulf of. oil tanker should be seized, steady run, if the iranians ship is not released. it was expected of carrying oilfrom not released. it was expected of carrying oil from iran not released. it was expected of carrying oilfrom iran to not released. it was expected of carrying oil from iran to syria not released. it was expected of carrying oilfrom iran to syria in breach of eu sanctions. you will realise the consequences, said the uranian president. translation: u, britain, are the initiator of insecurity and you will realise the consequences later. now you are so hopeless that when one of your tankers hopeless that when one of your ta nkers wa nts to hopeless that when one of your tankers wants to move in the region you have to bring a frigate to escort it because you are scared. less tha n escort it because you are scared. less than one week later there has been a confrontation in the persian gulf that looks like retaliation. five armed iranians boats attempted to seize a british tanker b

has not responded thus far to cnbc's request for comment, but it's an interesting shot across the bow. peteroard of facebook, facebook in the cross hairs regulators themselves. there has been a bit of deflection within the facebook, google, i don't know if amazon said it publicly but sort of the big tech world, which is to say if, you know, stop looking at us and start looking at china in terms of the -- you know, people say should these companies be broken up or how should they be regulated and there's sort of this increasingly sort of argument from the big tech companies to say hey, go look at what's going on over there. >> but the competitive threat isn't china. >> now to try to connect the dots between the two i think it's a stretch too far personally it's an interesting one. >> the questions seem a little bit accusatory. >> a little bit? just a tad >> but i think it's fair to ask whether or not our big tech companies are actually walled off completely from cooperating with chinese authorities i think if we're going to ask that question in terms of national security concerns dealing with

peter thiel has not offered evidence and being shot across the bow. out over the weekend saying google was working with the chinese. it's sort of an ironic thing to say in large part because google was one of the first tech companies to effectively say, you know what actually, on a principle basis we don't want to do business with the chinese maybe we should try to think about -- >> we'll work with them to figure out how we can. >> but then so far haven't. >> right. >> what do you think this is about? >> it sounds like that there's something -- he knows something that the rest of us don't. if he does, he should be all in on it. the other context, he has close ties to facebook. >> on the board. >> on the board of facebook. it's the one -- between facebook and google, this long standing rivalry, they're nowhere near china. >> you're not suggesting that mark zuckerberg is whispering in his ear saying go out there and tell the world it's google and china? >> no, i'm not suggesting that at all because i don't know that for a fact but that's the context. jo