madison guaranty was hillary's client. at the rose law firm which raised a series of questions. it also was in fact institution whose funding was in fact used inappropriately for the financing of the whitewater land deal. it really gets complex and when you unravel it all, there was fraud at the core of the entire transaction of the financing ofn the whitewater land l deal. so as we look to head at that trial, knowing that we were going to trial, we were not going to get some of the guilty pleas robert palmer and appraiser he had in it fraudulent appraisal. some people and you seet' what's unfolding now in the scandal involving college admissions, right it is a pretty ugly situation. people are entering guilty pleas. that's what we were experiencing in the upshot was that we expanded the trial team in the trial team by the way what included rod rosenstein. the now deputy attorney general of the united states. >> you mentioned that it really is a very complex web of transactions that you were looking under whitewater. also some very prominent offshoots of the investigations one o