philip mudd has received numerous awards and his comments about terrorism and congressional testimony have been featured in rock cast and news. he is now the present of mudd management. the company specializes in consulting analytic training public speaking about security issues. he's a senior fellow at the new america foundation and the george washington university homeland security policy institute and serves as senior global adviser to oxford analytica a british-based firm specializing in advising multinational companies. he sits on the advisory board for the national counterterrorism center and for the director of national intelligence and deserves on the aspen institute, and security groupie ladies and gentlemen please welcome philip mudd to the national archives. [applause] >> you missed the most important part of that which i lived part time in memphis tennessee the bluff city. thank you. i was running in midtown memphis which is and historic part of memphis it must be three or four years ago wondering whether to write another book and reflecting on some of what i witnessed at

attorney joyce vance who spent 25 years as a federal prosecutor and philip mudd for both cia counter terrorist center and the fbi's national security branch. he also happens to be the author of the new book that we'll be talking about later in this hour. it is called "black site: the cia in the post-9/11 world." good evening and welcome to all of you. mr. rucker, i'd like to start with you. you don't really believe that was kind of a toss off answer by the president to a subject that defines who we are and what we've become now, so much so that on the legal realm on just social media last night in the public domain the bots went to work with messaging trying to foment racial division just in the hours after the democratic debate. >> yeah, brian, this is not some sort of partisan point of view. this is fact according to our intelligence agencies, according to all of our intelligence agencies. it's not just special counsel -- former special counsel robert mueller who testified to it, but the president's own hand-picked intelligence chiefs, including dan coats, the former -- or soon to

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. >> joining me now, juliette kayyem and philip mudd. good evening to both of you.hil, police in springfield say the man who entered a walmart was wearing body armor and carrying tactical weapons. give me your reaction to this story. what do you think? >> well, i think the conversation nationally about how you have red flags i think is critical. the question i'd have in this case is, who is the individual and did he order those things when federal officers knew that perhaps there was something in his background that indicated -- this also relates to background checks -- that indicated that there was a reason they should be concerned about him. any time i see one of these, don, my first question is, was there an indicator that would have helped federal or local officers to stop this kind of thing, and should there be a law that says if someone has an issue in their background that would -- that should prevent them from acquiring things like gear that -- that is tactically related to preventing a bullet from hitting you or gear that relates to an automatic weapon, sho