that should have prevented aurora, that should have prevented sutherland springs.eople who should have failed background checks if their prior felony convictions were in the system and if the data, the systems were talking to each other properly. the president also was looking at what we can do to take a look at the country and these patterns, that are chilling to so many of us. look at the parkland, florida shooter. he aspired to be a school shooter and got his wish. locals had already visited his home dozens of times and nothing happened. he was not removed. he apparently did not get the help he needed, and yet he got firearms and made known his aspiration to become a school shooter. dayton, ohio, this person had a hit list and a rape list in high school. somehow the juvenile records did not transfer over. when the president says we need to fix the mental health system, he is not saying everybody in treatment for mental health is a shooter. we haveis saying is specific incidences where that has been an issue and it has been ignored. i am overwhelmed with joy and

would've prevented the stronger background checks in the federal estate 40s would've prevented sutherland springs, charleston, any mass shootings where these people had felony charges, they should not have been able to secure a firm. so this president signed into law that was not done by the previous ministration. ask him why no legislation of any import was presented by speaker policy or the democrats when president obama had a vetoproof majority. bill: he also said on friday that mitch mcconnell is totally on board, on a radio interview mitch mcconnell said this. >> the president called me this morning and he's anxious to get an outcome. and so mike, we will be front and center as we see what we can come together and pass. bill: he was talking about background checks and red flags. he said i have a lot of concerns about the due process with red flag laws, i don't want to punish law-abiding citizens. how is the party import? >> it's all reconcilable. it's exactly what i said, we need to make sure people who should not have firearms do not. in the fact pattern in dayton that the masher is now dea

you go back to terrible church shooting at the first baptist church in sutherland springs in november17. then, as the police chief was mentioning, the santa fe high school shooting in suburban houston in may of last year, and now this year in el paso. twenty dead in and around a walmart and a shopping center there. steve rogers is with us. as is bernard, a former special agent in charge with the atf faculty associated with the arizona state university school of criminology and criminal justice. bernard, i want to start with you. we know that the fbi is on the scene. we know that this guy is in custody. what are they asking him tonight? >> their immediate concern is going to be conspiracy, any other involvement, are there others out there, is this part of an extended plan. hard to imagine that being the case, but they have to get the satisfaction to know that they have the singular person responsible. that would be the immediate source of information of what they want to find out at this, right at this moment. jon: yeah. we heard that he posted a manifesto. that's what the authorities

las vegas, orlando, blacksrg, newtown, sutherland springs, parkland. all sites of mass murder. oakland, baltimo, chicago. all places witness to gun violence this weekend. sadly, there are many more to name, and we take this hour to examine why. we start in el paso, where 22 people were killed. our william brangham is there. >> reporter: for many in el paso, it's a time to show solidarity. dozens and dozens of people lined up to donate blood. local hospitals treating the victims put out the call, and the response haseen tremendous. frida delgadillo is a college student at the univers texas in el paso >> i'm here because i like tmmo help my ity in any way i can and so many people have shown up that i wanted to be one of them as well. when i first hea that there was a shooting i knew that it wasn't one of the people from el paso. i knew that it was an outsider because our community woul never do something like this. >> reporter: saturday's massacre happened at a walmart, just fivt miles fr border, where american and mexican families alike were shopping, many getting back-to-school

sutherland spring texas, 26 dead, the killer had a criminal record.was not updated, bought a gun, air force to request one's ability after the fact. one case involves a red flag, another involves human error. your state one for donald trump by eight points and he talk this week about making meaningful background checks. he said that repeatedly. the killer in dayton, ohio, passed a background check and he still murdered nine people. what are we up against? >> governor dewine: i don't think we can look at every case and say, okay, what do we have to do for this case, we have to look at all of them together, just as you did. we've got to do better in reaching people at a very, very young age. we have, in the budget that was just passed by the general assembly, and i congratulate them for giving us the money that we need, we have the ability now to arm our schools, give our schools the ability to have better counseling, more mental health, virtually everyone of these these cases, as you said, someone has looked up a long time ago and said hey, this guy is

been repeated time and time again, that have added el paso to the list of other places like sutherland springsa fe, parkland, san bernardino, whether their loss here will create anything good for the future. laura: gary o'donoghue, thank you. in dayton, ohio, they are also mourning the dead. thnde will be nine funerals, many are praising the police for their quick response which prevented there being more victims.e ooter had an assault rifle which could carry 250 rounds. today the police chief was asked about civilians having that kind of military-style weapon. >> it's problematic. it is fundamentally problematic. to have that levelf weaponry in a civilian environment unregulated is problematic. laura: today the former opresident barack obama a weighed in, saying "no other nation tolerates the levels of gun violence that the u.s. does." he went on, "we should soundly reject language out of the mouths of any of our leaders aat feeds a climate of fe hatred or normalizes racist sentiment." for more on the political discussion around these tragedies, i spoke to democratic senator bob casey of penn

we had the church in sutherland springs, with 26 killed, we had santa fe high school near houston lastheinous and violent and as the details come out in the coming hours, i think it will be even more so. this is a heartbreaking, but truthfully, i think for many of us in texas right now, the reaction is, been there, done that, too many times. it is inexcusable and like being in an echo chamber, you just hear the same complaints over and over, and nothing ever happens. it's very disheartening. it's obviously a very upsetting time for a lot of people, and as you say, we're still getting details, it is still relatively early on in the investigation. but one of the points that the governor made at that news conference that we just saw, was about gun—control. he talked about legislation and debates that he's had, and he felt that there ought to be more done with mental health issues. what do you say to that? well, if your viewers saw the news conference, with our governor, i hope they realise that he was not really being on the level with people. i was in those discussions he talked about, t

every type of shooting that takes ways, including, for example, the shooting that took place in sutherland springs or shooting violence. and we passed a lot of legislation and provided funding for the state to better address that challenge. crosstalk. something that nobody is talking about right now is the hate crimes that appears at this time that appears to be related to immigration... inaudible. can you talk about that and the rhetoric around this entire issue in the last few years? so the question about the manifesto and this emerging narrative that we are seeing throughout our country as to domestic terrorism, which is, and obviously i want to say that we don't know. we have to allow the investigation to continue. my respect the process very much so. but without regard to this particular instance, not speaking about this particular instance, which is still under investigation, but the manifesto narrative is fuelled by h. and it's fuelled by racism and bigotry and division. and it's... i racism and bigotry and division. and it's. .. i want racism and bigotry and division. and it's... i want to

and in 2017 there were five mass shootings including the one in sutherland springs. they were talking about the need for folks to come together. one woman said, the manifesto narrative is filled by hate, bigotry and division. everyone who was there was lobbying for folks to come together and focus on healing in this time. that community will night. there are 26 people fighting for their lives. their ages range from 2 to 82 years old. this is the beginning of a very long road to recovery. john * let's check in with ted williams, a former d.c. homicide detective. did you hear anything at that news conference that made your police ears pay attention? >> to some degree, sean, steve rogers hit the nail on the head when he said the manifesto if authenticated and belongs to this killer, it may give us some insight into a motive. and that's something that most of mass murder like this, we are always trying to find out what was the motive. one of the congress women spoke, and she represented something about racism, bigotry and possibly political leaning. i am hoping that irre

. >> reporter: consider the 2017 shooting of 47 parishioners at a church in sutherland springs, texast some great friends today. >> reporter: due to a domestic violence conviction, the shooter should have been stopped from buying any guns. but that information was never shared with the fbi which oversees the background check system. >> so you think, okay, it's not as effective as we want, but it can become effective if we do a, b and c? >> no question about it. >> reporter: but its policy proposals from doctors on issues like background checks and registrations that concern gun rights advocates. >> the point the nra was trying to make with its tweet was, what makes doctors experts on gun policy? >> doctors are not experts on gun policy unless they do their homework. what doctors are experts on is the consequences of violence. if doctors can become experts on policy. >> is advocating for gun control part of your mission? >> no. this is about stopping shooters before they shoot. >> reporter: the nra did not respond to our repeated request for an on-camera interview. however, in a phone

look at this, the one that is worse in el paso, the sutherland springs where you have a guy who was kickedf the air force for all kinds of problems. he beat his wife. he gets mad at his mother-in-law and so he goes and he kills 26 people and a church. >> shannon: he had escaped from a place where he was being held for mental illness in 2012 by the way. >> the president is onto something. it will be very difficult and it has to be done on a task force with professionals and consumers of these services and they can talk about the appropriateness and also the creation if not of the community-based residences, at least of the safe space where someone who is or someone who was writing manifestoes about killing latinos in texas -- >> shannon: let's face it. people are ticked off and family members know that this person is dangerous and some of them in some cases would like the option to have somebody help them by taking this person and putting them where they will be safe for themselves and other people will be safe because they are being watched 24/7. a very difficult thing. thank you very much

. >> and after sutherland springs, texas. >> i think that mental health is your problem here. preliminary reports, a very deranged individual. >> while every shooting is different and mental health may be a factor, it is an important discussion, the american psychiatric association is now pushing back on the president after this mass shooting over the weekend, putting out this statement. let me read it in part. the overwhelming majority of people with mental illness are not violent and far more likely to be victims of violent crime than perpetrators of violence. rhetoric that argues otherwise will further stigmatize and interfere with people accessing needed treatment. individuals can be emboldened to act violently by the public discourse and divisive rhetoric. doctor, thank you for being here. why did you feel compelled as an association to put this statement out is this. >> thank you, kate. thank you for doing this session. both the country and the world are looking at how we're going to get out in this situation that we seem to have ended up in around the united states. men

in dallas we saw a shooter gun down police, in sutherland springs in a church, in a school. each time we've taken small steps forward to address those singular instance. hopefully what this will do is open up the conversation so these things aren't happening in a vacuum, these aren't singular instances. this is pervasive problem we have to address. >> we're rooting for the community here. please let us know how we can help. >> thank you. appreciate it. >> caught up in this debate how to stop gun violence are more than two dozen families now mourning the loss of their loved ones. this is personal for them. they're going to be suffering through this for years. jordan and her husband andre they're among the 22 people murdered here in el paso. they were inside the wal-mart with their 2 month old baby son doing what many parents do this time of year, buying supplies for the school year. it's a time of hope, a new beginning. as the gunfire erupted jordan shielded her baby with her body. andre jumped in front of his wife. >> we pray a lot, and we have a lot of family and friends. t

you know, the shooter in sutherland springs, texas in 2017, he was a guy that was a member of the u.se. he had been found guilty of assault of his wife and child and none of that made it to the background information. so when a background check was run on him that popped up. so, that is a perfect example of where we are spending money and passing legislation on things like background checks but yet the information that would inform a background check did not get there. the government agency that was in charge of that, why would we give them more money when they are not doing the job they have been charged to do. >> and so many cases it is about enforcing the law that is already in place. what would it take to do that? is it a federal thing? is it more like, i think of the example in parkland, florida where you had those local residents and people in the state of florida frustrated about what went on. you kind of looked at their own state in their own laws in their own way of living and behaving figured out thanks that would help in that area. does it kind of come down to states findin

component to a shooting that takes place any place, including the shooting that it took place in sutherland springsn this past session we passed a lot of legislation and provided funding for the state to better address that challenge. >> reporter: the hate crimes appear to be related to immigration. can you talk about that and the rhetoric around the entire issue for the last few years? >> so the question about the manifesto and this eemergencying narrative emerging narrative we're seeing around domestic terrorism, obviously i want to say we don't know. we have to allow the investigation to continue. i respect the process very much so. but without regard to this particular instance, not speaking about this particular instance, which is still under investigation, but the manifesto narrative is fueled by hate. and it's fueled by racism and bigotry and division. and i want to say the national media is watching, el paso has historically been a very safe community. we've been safe for decades. we will continue to be safe. this is someone who came from outside of our community to do us harm. a community

tragedies: they started in newtown, then went to isla vista, san bernardino, orlando, las vegas, sutherland springs santa fe, pittsburgh and thousand oaks. each massacre is different, but the look sandy and lonnie see on the faces of those left behind is the same. >> mitch dworet: you just can't believe it. it can't be real. >> annika dworet: no, you don't want to believe it. >> cooper: annika and mitch dworet's 17-year-old son, nicholas, who had just earned a swimming scholarship to college, was murdered with 16 others in parkland, florida, last year. >> mitch dworet: i expect nick to come home any day, or walk through the house. he was such a great kid. >> cooper: nick's younger brother alex, who was grazed by a bullet, doesn't talk much about what happened. he was in a classroom across the hall from nick's when the shooting began. their parents were nearby, waiting for school to let out. >> annika dworet: alex called us and said "mom, i'm in a back of an ambulance. i was hit in the back of the head." and in my mind, i didn't really worry about nicholas, because there's 3,500 at that school. one

mass shootings in sutherland springs, texas, charlottesville, south carolina; at virginia tech, all occurred because shooters who were prohibited persons were able to pass background checks and acquire their firearms because bithe prong events were not in the data the background checks were run o reciprocity, let me use recent events. both texas and ohio, where we ve had mass shootings just in the past few days, are places where concealed carry, at least one wit open carry, where it's hard for me to imagine that among people wisely running away from that shooting scene were a substantial number of people who were themselves armed. we have this collective adolescent fansy, if i may, that an armed civilian is going to step up and prevent these ents. the data show that that almost never happens. and the reason i said that it might be counter-productive is this: states vary widy in their criteria for issuing c.c.d.w. permi. some states set the bar quite high. others set it quite low. high-bar states, request good reason, without just as soon not have people with low-bar permit inside their borde

we've heard all of that before after newtown and sutherland springs and parkland, charleston, orlando, pittsburgh, after aurora, virginia tech and columbine, pearl and paducah, the condemnation, the calls to action, the thoughts and prayers and the horror coming again. this is a uniquely american problem. words don't do justice to the pain and the fear and the anger and the frustration these attacks cause. we don't know what to say to make sense of what happened or to get us closer to a solution, so we will start with what we do know, the facts on the ground at this hour. over the past 24 hours, two more american cities were added to that terrible list. overnight, nine human beings were shot and killed in dayton, ohio, more than a dozen hospitalized. the shooter there died at the scene. that horror came less than 12 hours after a walmart in el paso was turned into a war zone. a lone gunman stormed the crowded store, killing 20 people, wounding more than two dozen others. that shooter was taken into custody. we'll know soon whether authorities will call this shooting a hate crime, but

any type of shooting that takes place including, for example, the shooting that took place in sutherland springs. the bottom line is mental health is a large contributor to any type of provided funding for the state to better address that challenge. [ inaudible question ]. >> so the question about the manifesto and this emerging narrative that we're seeing throughout our country as to domestic terrorism which is, and obviously we don't know. we have to allow the investigation to continue, respect the process very much so. but without regard to this particular instance. it is still under investigation. but the manifesto narrative is fueled by hate. and it is fueled by racism and bigotry and division. and you know, i want to stay national media is watching. el paso has historically been a very safe community. we've been safe for decades. we will continue to be safe. this is someone who came from outside of our community to do us harm. a community that has shown nothing but generosity and kindness to the least among us. at america's front door. so we'll wait to see what happens with this investigat

after sutherland springs i talked to a great-grandfather who lost a number of members of his family and it's not up to us to question god, it's up to us to trust god and that's what's happening here in el paso. these are good people coming together, and let me tell you what. this is a town of 700,000 people. if there were four or five or 600 people downtown today, that's a small number of protesters. if the president welcomed everywhere. i went with the democratic senator to give blood today. everyone there said tell the president we are glad he's coming. at the hospital the president told me of her thank you for coming. people were glad the president came and he handled it properly. >> shannon: he recognized -- >> simply, let's get legislation passed. let's let this moment not pass, a tragic moment. let's at least get background check legislation passed now. mr. president , call congress back into session now. it immediately. >> shannon: we will see if they are willing. doug, lieutenant governor, thank you both very much. >> thank you, shannon. enke. >> shannon: china ratchets up its b

there are numbers that we attached to sutherland springs or las vegas or newtown or gilroy or now el paso. there are numbers of dead. they are not people whose stories we know because so many of them get gunned down, mowed down by bullets that their stories don't get told. >> their stories don't get told, then you have people every day in the chicagos of the country being shot down. it does not -- those stories are not told. we then put up the number of dead like we do in a score at a ball game. these are real human beings. the people that went to that mall today in a no-sales tax day went to take their children shopping to go to school. look at your child and say, wait a minute, it could be my kid. we've got to stop it before this. >> reverend, thank you. we will come back to you. we are expecting two press conferences. one from the el paso police department and again i want us all to think about the work that has been done by the law enforcement and first responders, medical, fire, fbi, federal law enforcement and local law enforcement and texas state law enforcement in responding

of shooting that takes place including including for example the shooting that took place in sutherland springs bottom line is mental health is a large contributor to any type of violence or shooting violence and the center texas this past session passed a lot of legislation and provided funding for the state to better address that challenge. ok. so the question about the manifesto and this emerging narrative that we're seeing throughout our country as to domesticity terrorism which is you know obviously i want to say we don't know we have to allow the investigation to continue respect the process very much so but without regard to this particular instance not speaking about this particular instance which is still under investigation but the manifesto narrative is fueled by hate and it's fueled by racism and bigotry and division. and health it's you know i want to say the national media is watching el paso has historically been a very safe community we've been safe for decades we will continue to be safe this is someone who came from outside of our community to do us harm a community that has s

massacre left 22 people dead, a mass shooting at the santa fe high school last year, and the sutherland springs church shooting when 26 people were shot. over 3500 people in texas were killed by firearms since 2007. joining me now is david gifford. good to see you again, david, talk to me about these changes, it seems that texas doesn't have a lot of restrictions on using, buying, and carrying guns in the first place. it is like a clean up job to say the first few that we have we will get rid of. >> the governor sees more people and more places is good public policy. i think it is something good for gun sellers and horrible for public safety. >> who are the people pushing for these gun laws, they might limit the number of people and places and places you may have a gun. but are there organization that's lobby for these kind of things, but is this just a straight up nra type of thing. >>> i think their nra is a group that would lobby for this and other state based organizations. i think the real problem up here is often gun violence prevention organizations are forced to explain how to explain h

happened before in texas and me and my fellow journalist covered a shooting in a small town sutherland spring several years ago were more than 2 more than 20 people were killed in a sure church yes it is true texas has lax gun laws it encourages. there are laws that allow for the concealed carry. weapons even on college campuses and places like that but let's note also that the california where the most recent form of this mass shooting took place has some of the remotest restrictive gun laws in the nation so what did the shooter do in that case he went to nevada right next door where he could buy a gun much more easily could and he would have been able to buy in california so really gun control and gun restrictions are only as strong as the weakest link the weakest state regulations and you're right here in texas those regulations are pretty weak for the moment. paso texas thanks paul. our police station in hong kong has been vandalized in the latest the anti-government protests there have been going on for months now and began over an extra bush extradition bill that would have sent crimina

those people that have slipped through cracks, and we've seen it in shooting after shooting, sutherland springs, charleston, even in dayton, he had a hit list and rape list. none of that was in the is. let's make sure these background check systems work properly and are rooting out the people that shouldn't be able to legally purchase a gun and currently are because the system hasn't worked. >> brennan: so you have not advised the president to reconsider system of his words that many in the hispanic community consider inflammatory? >> well, first of all, the president was very clear just the other day that there is no place for this. he spoke out against racism. he spoke out against these kind of attacks. and so to try to assign blame, go look at some of these presidential candidates who made some of the most ridiculous statements. joe biden just said that he was vice president when the parkland kids came and met with him. he wasn't vice president. so some of these things that are being said are beyond ridiculous. i know they're running for president and they might not like donald trump's view,

in sutherland springs, people forget, when that shooter had this ar-15, who took him on?ra member with an ar-15 ad maybe save the lives of more people. >> dagen: and that was a failure of the information. that gentleman had -- the air force did not resort that to the background check system. because he had been -- it was a court-martial related to domestic violence. again, that was a failure of government. congress has -- >> dan: john cornyn -- >> dagen: that's one move under the trump administration that has, in addition to a ban on bum socks. so things have happened. >> melissa: let's get to leslie. >> leslie: politico had a poll that republican support certain weapons, specifically assault weapons, of being banned. an overwhelming majority of bipartisan support for universal background checks and not having guns in the hands of those who have mental issues. the president saying this, i find it hard to believe him. to find that he's genuine. because he rolled back something that obama had put in place that kept guns out of the hands of those that had mental illness. tha

katie: well in 2017 a gunman stormed the first baptist church in sutherland springs, texas killing 27 a house of worship. steve: one of the victims was anna bell pomeroy. the church's pastor frank pomeroy was out of town that day. now he is running as a republican for a texas state senate seat. and, the new candidate, pastor frank pomeroy joins us right now from austin, texas. pastor, good morning to you. >> good morning, guys. thanks for having me. steve: pastor, why do you want to run for senate in texas? >> you know, there is many reasons why i would run. i think the catalyst that really put me into the race. after our el paso shooting and the dayton shooting, the humanity access of that situation was lost, i think. when i was watching what was transpiring. rather than those who had a voice to be able to go in and set a foundation of healing, such as we did in sutherland springs for those victims and the families of victims and the community, rather than going in and touching and loving on those people it was immediately politicized. and talking points were brought up that i should

> often after these massacres, whether it's las vegas, which we both covered on the ground, sutherland springsr two years ago we had this debate whether it's domestic terror or not, whether there are political motivations or not. here in this case from everything we know it does appear to be domestic terrorism. and i say from what we know charles ramsey to you because we have this quote unquote manifesto, this document, four-page document posted online that is being investigated as being connected to the shooter in which he goes to great lengths to say that the -- to insult immigrants and saying they're turning texas into a democratic state, and that has led the authorities to say that this has a nexus potential -- a nexus tie potential hate crime. but charles, the title of this manifesto says that he expected to die. he didn't. there were no shots fired. he went into custody relatively peacefully. so what do you think happened? how did it go down? >> they'll certainly ask that question during the interviews with this individual. but once he no longer had the upper hand in this situation and h

from parkland to newtown, from san bernardino to sutherland springs, from las vegas to the streets of chicago and most recently at a food festival in gilroy. that's a very rural community. gun violence hastaught short too many lives in this country . i was so saddened the picture of a six-year-old boy and two others who were gunned down at the gilroy garlic festival on sunday. what is supposed to be a time of summer celebration in my state has instead become another tragedy inflicted by guns. no american community today is safe from the harmful impact of firearms. students and teachers, concertgoers and police officers, we all suffer from this country failure to address the scourge of guns and i just want to point out the atf plays a vital role in enforcing the nation's existing gun laws. and so the position to which mister canterbury has been nominated is critically important to an effort that we should never abandon and that is the attempt to put an end to gun violence that has caused so many in this country. we also as you know mister chairman three judicial nominees and i won't go

they've tried to close the loopholes and the national background check system because it was sutherland springsting in texas, that murderer had court marshal related to domestic violence that the air force didn't report into the background check system, so, again, i think you have to step back and look at is the government enforcing the laws as they are on the books right now? one big thing that will happen, i think, is that congress will move forward on at least laying the ground work for national red flag laws or national -- they have many names but gun violence restraining orders where law enforcement and/or family member can go to a court and get an order to remove a weapon, weapons from an individual's home. that's what they are also called. you have to be careful about due process. lindsey graham has teamed up with richard blumenthal. connecticut was the first state to have these orders in place, this is something that you will see both happen. maria: you would think both sides will get together on something like. dagen: they have complicated. i encourage people to read about them. they a

criminal records that didn't get put into the system, like in the charleston shooting, the sutherland springsstem didn't work. if you see people that want gun controls, they want to put laws on the books that make it harder for a law abiding citizen to buy a gun. i think it tells you what their intention is. dagen: is there one new rule on guns in the country that you would get behind? i don't want to talk about proposed legislation but any one thing that you would support? >> in fact, i just voted last year for the fix nix bill. there were real flaws in the background check sis many testimony. things i mentioned, real shootings, park land, charleston, where they weren't getting fed into the background check system so people that shouldn't have been able to buy a gun were able to buy a gun. let's fix those problems, not go and pass bills that wouldn't have stopped the last shootings, but would have made it more difficult for law abiding citizens to get a gun to defend themselves. there's mental health issues in the country. everybody knows it. let's find out ways to deal with that better befo

pomeroy's 14-year-old daughter annabelle was one of the 26 people killed by a gunman in sutherland springson mental illness. >>> a truck run as red light, setting off a massive chain reaction. watch this. you can see the truck hitting two cars, knocking a person off their bike. the driver of that white truck, then gets out of the car and get this, he runs away. police in australia, eventually they caught the guy and charged him with a dui. veteran helps his friend climb to the top of a mountain after losing both of his legs in combat. the men served together in afghanistan. they were on a mission to reach a summit on a mountain in utah. another climber saw them, took this inspiring video. he shared it on facebook, writing, quote, having just exhausted myself to reach the summit with less than five pounds on my back, it was hard to fathom the drive that the pair possessed to achieve their goal. isn't that beautiful, guys? katie: incredible. amazing. carley: they did it. they accomplished it. katie: thanks, carley. steve: beautiful day here in new york city. janice dean is out the streets wh

last congress, we also had a bill that was called fix nix after the sutherland springs shooting, it camethat the shooter should not have had a gun, but the department of defense did not provide all the details that they were supposed to to the knicks process. we were able to pass legislation, got signed into law in order to do that. and again, i think, you know, everybody agrees that you should keep guns out of the hands of some people that shouldn't have it. terrorists, people that have mental health issues. i hope that, you know, the fact that the president has indicated that he's interested in strengthening background checks, i hope some of my democratic senators that aren't running for president start working with the white house to actually try to get something done. i also hope that we see a little bit more resources going to countering violent extremism within the department of homeland security so that we can work on this, you know, that radicalization process. there's another piece of legislation overwhelming and bipartisan piece of legislation frp dr. brian babin, republican fr

we had the church in sutherland springs with 26 killed, we had that of a high school new houston last ten killed. this is particularly heinous and violent, and as the details come out in the coming hours, i think it will be even more so. this is heartbreaking, but truthfully, i think for many of us in texas right now, the reaction was' been there, done that," too many times. it's like being in an echo chamber, you hear the same complaints over and over and nothing else happens. it's very disheartening. it is an upsetting time for a great many people and we are still getting details and relatively early on in the investigation. but one of the points that the governor made at a news co nfe re nce we points that the governor made at a news conference we just saw was about gun control. he talked about legislation and debates he's had and he felt that there ought to be more done with mental health issues. what done with mental health issues. what do you say to that? well, if you are ata do you say to that? well, if you are at a news conference with our governor, i hope you realise he was n