in the meantime many have no choice but to seek help from people like al-harbi material and his rehabilitation center in katrina. are there specific indicators for alcohol abuse and dependence. we speak of alcohol abuse if somebody is used to many platys feelings by oracle hole force good feelings. kick off bad feelings and if this. injurious. different. things in your life for example your social relationships or your birth abilities are something like this and you still can't stop or cut down your drinking then you are dependent ok in syria fine line when you can say that somebody is dicta i call it the number of rings or is it more what the best to you it's more what the article does to you it's not always the amount of oracle who drink for example if you have other things that make you a life nice and. worth living you don't depend so much on alcohol somebody who is just sitting there maybe unemployed and has his bottle of wine this bottle of wine means a lot more to him ok and if somebody says ok i want to quit i want to kick the habit can he do this on his own or does he always end up it