b.p. . to be fair this is. all mark's decision really and he asked me what i felt about it knowing that i have over the years done some work with oil and gas companies including b.p. and shell and had to come to a judgment for myself about the degree to which they are serious now about thriving in a low carbon world without further investments in oil and gas so we talked about that at length and i feel very strongly that when someone like mark feels a moral imperative that is wrong for a company like b.p. to be spending some of its what he would call ill gotten gains on supporting young people through the assisted ticket scheme you have to we have to listen to him he's thought about this really carefully it's a very deep moral decisions but i mean he quoted you as saying that b.p. has downplayed its role in causing the climate emergency now you just said you advise b.p. moon where they downplay it back then or the time that i was working with b.p. was when lord brown was chief exec has been on this show i should say good. there was a whole length of time for 5 years where b.p. was really serious about trying to think its way out of being a pure oil and gas company becoming