i'm married to dolores gibson whiles. we live in marin county. i was in law enforcement for 30 years. came over to a captain and depu and i live in novato. >> i told you i did not know about the police background and law enforcement. i was at the jail one day and they said that the church does a lot you'd were a liaison. they said he is a police officer. i said, i did not know that. you have a great reputation for that. >> i believed in matthew five that says blessed are the peacemakers. they should be called children of god. i always wanted to be a police maker as opposed to a piece kiefer. but of police maker has to listen and understand all factions and try to navigate and create peace. where everybody is affirmed. >> i like the concept and understanding. we know there has been a lot of tension in the communities. i'm sure you have had to walk that line at times. >> i have been one of the fierce critics. i love cops. they have walked away from ethical positioning. not all of them. but there is a percentage that have walked away from the ethica