joining me to discuss this all was phil haslett, cofounder and chief revenue officer at equityzen, a secondary marketplace for pre-ipo shares and bloomberg's crystal tse. crystal: they have a lot to address before they can go out to the investors and ask them for their money. like you said, they were looking for a $47 billion valuation, and now we are hearing it could be as low as $12 billion to $15 billion. you know, they have actually made a lot of changes to corporate governance, but investors are really looking at valuations, whether they will performance, financials, and whether more changes are needed to the corporate governance structure for them to be convinced about the valuation they want to get. taylor: phil, this morning on the open, they spoke with gene munster, who cofounded loup ventures. he had some comments as related to the valuation part of wework. take a listen. >> the valuation is really a wake-up call to private investors that the public markets are holding them accountable. and the specific reason i think this report reflected that was the amount of cash burn -