host: fort wayne, indiana, mike, democratic. caller: lee, i appreciate you. i will make this short.-american, make this short, you really summed it up, especially when you reference civil rights. we can say what we want. we know that when everything was segregated, it was all good. once you get those folks some down., but still trickles alabama, tennessee, parts of the midwest. lee, i appreciate you because you are fair-minded. i guess i can say you are fair balanced. one of those terms, which is of course, good for what i call the even gelcoat white right -- even ical, white-- evnagel writes. there are a handful of blacks that probably voted for it. i am not sure people agree with that or not but thank you for your views. i appreciate you. host: thoughts? guest: i have lots of thoughts. thank you for the comment. challenge in a contemporary political alignment is we have defined the two ethnic,along cultural, identity lines. we have created a political conflict that feels very zero-sum over questions of american national identity. that is a dangerous conflict for a political system