it swept up a lot of executives, including john lasseter. deal with it from a management perspective? >> well, i think the first thing is not being in denial. accepting the fact that there is a problem. recognizing that it was time for considerable and -- change, almost on an emergency basis. >> reporter: i was actually quite shocked to read about the incident that occurred when you were starting out in television. it was an illustration that sexual harassment is not about sex. it's about power. >> i was a very low-level production person on the evening news. and i had to go into a control room to ask whether we had to shoot parts of the show again, and there was a producer. i think i asked him, "how does it look?" and he unzipped his pants, "you tell me how it looks." i can chuckle about it a bit. there's nothing funny about it, at all. but it is telling in the sense that if that could happen to me, you know -- that it has happened way too often. and you have to create an environment where that -- it is thoroughly, thoroughly unacceptable t