ms. krumbhaar present? okay. >> hi, my name is cathy yu. i'm also an appellant.members of the board, we have submitted substantial evidence to you about the constant stream of everyday passers-by who walk by to see historic homes. we have provided numerous photos and firsthand testimony of those with direct knowledge of the visitors who walk daily. our evidence of the popularity of this landmark is unrefuted. the appellant even considered that they never visited the site, except for an engineer that was sent to that address to conduct technical tests. without such a visit, they could not make the required individualized assessment of the esthetics. visitors don't get dropped off by helicopters at the top of the li lions steps. they walk up and down and look up and down the corridor. visitors walk up and down from union to broadway to enjoy the spectacular scenery, to see the historic homes, the trees, movie landmark homes and gorgeous gardens on the route. so that is a similar pole and if you go this way, you will see there is additional two boxes. the top extens