the director of the department of human resources, nikki callahan works through me to administer this program. the rules section and all four volumes of the civil service rules are the conflict of interest provision, and it speaks to a form that the director of the department of human resources provides for any employees who are seeking outsider secondary employment. we put that form out, and we update it regularly. where in the process of updating it, at this moment, as well in consultation with ethics commission and the city attorney's office and the whistleblowers department. i believe the commissioners have hardcopies as well. i'm going to go ahead and proceed. >> we do not have hardcopies, no. again -- >> again, from a high-level level overview. the things that the department sees and plays work for, that the then checks for her to really make sure that the additional employment does not interfere with the performance of their regular job. this is any employee, does it matter if they're temporary, permanent, exempt, it is any employee of the city. we want to make sure that that d