so patrick freedman chose and he said if we made our own lands and instead of over control, we votedwith our houses by moving them about and choosing the neighbors we want, we could unleash an economic solution to political problems, we could choose the societies we want and selection by citizens and unleash evolution and government, -- >> so who essentially govern it is people off of thailand and who is governing the people of sealand, there's still property of britain, correct? >> sealand is property of britain because territorial seas have expanded to encompass sealand and sealand takes position that it's independent and britain ignores them. incremental steps towards independence and they want to evolve new societies from the bottom up and not governance of land but among people who could choose neighbors that they want. >> on your book you write if the great depression had happened in the 50's, you predict that we would be going seastead? >> it was funded by japanese funder who died and taken on and funded by u.s. government and it was so provisionary and spent time in the white