roger, i wish s u great success with tok. it is so fun to talk to you, you have made me so much smarter in 30 minute [mcnamee] evan, i love it. thank you so much, brother. [smith] roger mcnamee, thanks so much. (audience clapping) [smith] we'd love to have you join us in the studio. visit our website at klru.org/overheard to find invitations to interviews, q&as with our audience and guests, and an archive of past episodes. [mcnamee] mark zuckerberg came out a couple eks ago and said they're gonna tu everything into end to end encryption so it looks like messenger and whatsapp. and he puts this forward lis looking out for our privacy. what's really going on is that his big problem ishe is home to hate speech, he is home to disinformation, he is a home to conouiracy theories. and ifncrypt end to end, he's no longer responsible because he can no longer tell what you're doing. [narrator] funding for overheard with evan smith is provided in part by hillco partners, ira texas government afconsultancy, the alice kleberg reynolds foundation, ) captioning sponsored by wnet >> sreenivasan: on this edition for sunday, september 1: the l