maybe with those vanguard rockets but they were defective so kennedy is a beneficiary to go with von braun who said say what you want his rockets were flawlessly constructed and he would work quickly but was even mocked for being so safety prone he would not shortcut so that giant saturn five was done by von braun. >> intelligence authorities at world war ii carefully scrubbed the records creating false records and identities they weren't considered ex- nazis they didn't have to answer for their crimes against humanity. they were germans. >> they were tried in nuremberg but churchill came in 1946 to give the iron curtain speech in missouri so we were thinking we need them we have no missile program and they have that intelligence we didn't realize how many they got because we thought we had the best but oddly both russia and the united states are starting to compete in missiles because of german rocket intelligence. they had no atomic program , the germans. they put so much into missiles and to day living in a world of icbm and intermediate range missiles that is a whole world of technolog

you heard of werner von braun, the nazi in charge of the program in germany. we scooped him up and lots of other scientists and engineers under the auspices of a top-secret program called operation paperclip. he was in charge of one of the programs, air force, navy, army had their own programs for space and satellites. >> host: how quickly did the us get a satellite in orbit after sputnik? >> a couple months later. it might have been done earlier. that -- they wanted to be sure, they were testing for safety. if that had happened the entire space race might never have happened. >> host: president eisenhower, supporter of nasa? did he get it? >> guest: now. he didn't get it. he thought it was a huge waste of time and money. didn't think a beach ball-sized silver sphere meant anything. he didn't understand and a lot of people did not understand what it meant and what was going to happen because of it. >> host: may 25, 1961. the importance of jfk's speech. >> the challenge, his urgent needs. challenged america to land a man on the moon and bring him back safely be

california company the gateway foundation released plans for the von braun station, including restaurantsmovie screenings, low gravity basketball and rock climbing facilities, they hope to get it off the ground in 2025. >> trevor: a movie theater? you will go all the way to space and watch a movie? ( laughter ) sort of makes sense because when you think about it, space is probably exciting for about, like, 15 minutes, and then at that point it's like how many times can you say wow. yeah, just like, wow! the earth! wow, the moon! ( silence ) ( laughter ) guys want to watch the lion king? ( laughter ) i also feel really bad for the staff on the hotel, because you realize they have to do the same training as astronauts to work there, but then you go up and just clean a hotel. the boss would be, like, congrats on the bachelor's in physics, now clean the seamen off the sheets. let's move on to the top story. ( applause ) the presidential race, even though we have been in primary season for six years, we're still eleven months away from seeing one democrat face off against donald trump. but las

know at the time of the moon landing thomasf paine and von braun had said we can be permanent moon base by the late seventies and work our way and go on too mars by 1981 or in the early eighties and of course that did not t happen. president nixon canceled the last three apollo flights. there should be 18 through 20 because they already built the hardware foror the mission. then they said no let's do it so there was some savings but not a lot so there was some public interest that was drying up. so we took the saturn five and then to think we could do skylab that is cheaper. then over a couple of decades saturn five is a great big rocket every piece is thrown away except for the final capsule coming back to earth certainly we could do things cheaper with a reusable shuttle so what happened is the shuttle once it was operational the first flight 1981 the real i inflation-adjusted cost went up with the shuttle rather than down. by the way carter was nothing really big on the shuttle being built. although he did have a regulation that said government payloads have to go on government carri

now, at the time of the moon landing thomas pain, head of nassau, certainly von braun and those folks were saying we can have a permanent moon base by the late 70s. we can work away and go on to mars by 1981 or the early 80s. ofcourse, that didn't happen . president nixon canceled the last three apollo flights, it was supposed to be apollo 18, 19 and 20 and the shame as they already built the hardware and it wasthere on cement and they said let's not do it . there were savings but not humongous amount and part of that wasbecause public interest was drying up . we went to the moon, what's next ? we decided to take a i think it's the saturn five mid-stage would make it into skylab, we can do skylab, that's cheaper, let's do that. and then through a couple of decades, the idea that we get a reusable shuttle. a saturn five is a great big rocket and every piece gets thrown away except for the final capsule. surely we can do things cheaper if we get a reusable shuttle. so what happened in fact is the shuttle once it was operational, first flight was 1981 through the decades the real inflati

it's called the von braun space station created by the gateway foundation. you may recall him.ould be operational by 2025. >> how are they going to get it to space? >> i can'tance that question. they're saying it's got 24 individual modules. some will be sold as private residences. gayle, you can have a weekend escape. >> or i can stay on the upper west side and go to cbs. >> the population -- >> now you're talking. >> that's a good idea. the population will be about 400. the seen your design architect said that the core of the project is forming a space production industry to create a habit of space. >>> mine's about the university of virginia. i like yours, anthony, but mine's about university of virginia basketball. >> i don't think you really did. >> his name is tony bennett. his name is coach tony ben net. he turned down a big raise. he asked to have his staff be paid more anze improve basketball and the rest of the athletic programs. last season he led uva to a victory against texas tech for its first national victory. i love it when a person says i have money. he says i