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still with us is historian and author jon meacham. and you know this is coming, tell us about the newspaper scandal of 1947, the article by mr. x. >> ah, yes, the long telegram. the doctor to the author of containment was george kennan. it was an anonymous article. it was actually in foreign affairs, wasn't it? >> yeah, that's right. >> this is the first time -- i'm gladiato glad we're up against the world series talking about foreign affairs. kennan was an american diplomat. he wrote -- basically laid out the argument for containment and is the intellectual father of that and wrote it anonymously. i would look at this on two levels. one is in real-time. president exogencies of those of us who aren't so courageous and don't have the choice to be anonymous and make this kind of warning. i think need to be careful about casting the first stone here. this person is clearly working through an enormously complex set of factors in their life and trying to put the life of the country in a better place as well. >>> now, in the fullness of tim

ana, the only problem in jon meacham's comparison to today to a john dean moment. we could hear and see john dean. i've got no video to show the folks in our audience tonight of what went on today. it's an acute problem for the democrats who have thus far not proven adept at storytelling, witnessed the mueller report, but we'll get to that later on in the broadcast. what we know from today we learned from your team, broke the story of the opening statement. tell our audience in your own words what kind of story ambassador taylor told today. >> well, brian, ambassador taylor gave democrats a kind of a step-by-step road map to what they should be looking at and how he as a career public servant became disillusioned over the summer with what he what he saw around him in ukraine. recall that he took this job under somewhat under duress at the behest of mike pompeo at the end of may after the sitting ambassador, who is a friend of bill taylor's had been ousted in what taylor thought was completely, you know, awful circumstances and told pompeo so. and pompeo said i want

. >> jon meacham, you and peter were two of three authors on the book "impeachment." it strikes me as i'm looking at this statement we got from kevin mccarthy, a political statement he's putting out there. he says, unfortunately you've given no indication about whether there are key historical precedence or basic standards of due process that will be observed. help us put what we've seen unfold over the last 24 hours in any kind of historical context, jon. >> well, we have a rolling abuse of power unfolding on our television screens. at least nixon did it behind closed doors and taped it. trump has disintermediate eighted that as well. without being anyway partisan, it seems the question for those, including leader mccarthy -- i haven't seen his letter. every republican, every person who supports the president i think has to answer the following question, and the answer can be whatever they want it to be. but at least they have to confront it. is american sovereignty worth the reflexive support of the president? do you so want to support this man against all criticism

this morning presidential historian jon meacham gave a sobering reminder of how this will be seen in. >> the line from the right is going to be that the president has been crystal clear, no quid pro quo. they're going to cherry pick that and run with it. the president's opponents will take some of the rest of it and run with that. and we're going to end up, i think, once again, in this arena where where you stand determines what you believe, no matter what the facts show you. >> joining me now, david drucker, senior political correspondent for "the washington examiner" and former congressman steve israel. david, the sound of silence has been deafening on the republican side. but look, when the president says like he did today repeatedly, this is about corruption, you have tv talk show hosts, you have conservative blogs, you have some of the fringe facebook groups, all of them then who will then believe and continue that narrative. so are we going to see any change from any of the republicans based on, frankly, what's happened over the past 24 hours? >> right. if you're looking for ch

jon meacham, great to see you.his weekend, my friend. >>> the white house has three days to turn over documents related to the ukraine scandal, but the president is planning to ignore those demands. we'll talk to jackie speier who sits on the oversight committees about that standoff and the new text messages out overnight. "morning joe" is back in a moment. t overnight. "morning joe" is back in a moment. this fall, book two, separate qualifying stays at choicehotels.com... ...and earn a free night. because when your business is rewarding yourself, our business is you. book direct at choicehotels.com tthe bad news? our so will this recital.day. new depend® fit-flex underwear offers your best comfort and protection guaranteed. because, perfect or not, life's better when you're in it. be there with depend®. you're stronger than you know. so strong. you power through chronic migraine, 15 or more headache or migraine days a month. one tough mother. you're bad enough for botox®. botox® has been preventing headaches and m

it just needs to be a different relationship from the one we've had. >> fred, jon meacham here.dots, and without being hyperbolic and i don't mean the question to be hyperbolic, could you talk about the climate about dissent and a free press in the united states and what the murder of your colleague suggests about the ultimate stakes of that kind of crackdown on a climate of dissent, not just in saudi arabia but around the world. >> i mean, i think if you step back, you think this was an extraordinary crime, an american resident, a columnist for an american newspaper lured into a diplomatic compound in a different country from his own and deliberately murdered there, if we had a normal american government and secretary of state committed to american values, they would be saying we need a full accounting of what happened. we need accountability for what happened before we can move on in any way. otherwise, the implications are really chilling. no journalist anywhere in the world is going to be safe even in diplomatic compounds which traditionally are supposed to be the place of s

this tells three previous examples in american history, and of course the current one by jon meacham,will help you make up your own mind as you watch the news unfold. >>> the answer to my gps challenge this week is b. the combined income of all adults in the median american household was $63,179 in 2018. this means that half of the households in the united states earned more than that number and half earned less. but the single number highlights h the disparity of median income across the world. for americans, it's 87,000, while for black incomes, it's 47,000. incomes across america is sky high. the report reveals that inequality in america in 2018 is the highest reported in 50 years. >>> thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. um, you guys are just going for a week, right? yeah! that's right. can you help with these? oh... um, we're more of the plan, invest and protect kind of help... sorry, little paws, so. but have fun! send a postcard! voya. helping you to and through retirement. no matter what life throws down ♪ roomba is up for the

intelligent account of the three previous examples in american history and of course the current one, by jon meachamjeffrey engle. it will help you make up your own mind as you watch the news unfold. th "gps" challenge this week is "b," the combined income of all adults in the median american household was $63,179 in 2018. this means that half of the households in the united states earned more than that number and half earned less. but this single number hides how much income disparity there is across the country. for example, the medianation household earns over $87,000, while for black individuals, that number is just around $41,000. the average income is much higher hat $90,000, because incomes at the top in america are sky-high. the report reveals that inequality in america in 2018 is the highest recorded in history year. thanks to all of you for being part of my program this week. i will see you next week. with moderate to severe crohn's disease, i was there, just not always where i needed to be. is she alright? i hope so. so i talked to my doctor about humira. i learned humira is for people wh

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jon meacham, final thought? >> we have a remarkable day -- >> i'm sorry.gressman david jolly. >> i think about one hour from now, stephanie, house will vote to make donald trump the fourth president in the united states history to be subject to impeachment proceedings by the united states congress. >> i would say someone is getting famous today. we have 433 people and two seats open in congress. they are going to vote, 199 of them are republican, justin amash as an independent and the rest, 2 hundred whatever democrats, someone will vote against their party and someone will be a surprise and because we're all looking for unity any fissure we will jump on. you have to figure, someone is going to break ranks and it's going to be surprising. it could be either side of the aisle. also, just out of curiosity whether or not speaker pelosi votes. it's tradition the speaker doesn't often votes but on a day like today i would think she would want to lead from the front. >> we'll see. it seems like unprecedented times. hagar, felipe, congressman, thank you so much.

peter baker and jon meacham wrote that book with him. you wrote about the civil war rhetoric in "the washington post" and point out trends in his rhetoric. what did you notice? >> craig, we noticed this is not the first time the president suggested that if things don't go the way he likes, if he's not allowed to govern or lead as he sees fit, there could be an uprising. his words infer that it could be led by his supporters. there's been some concern about that because this has been interpreted as perhaps the president affirming or encouraging those who feel victimized and disrespected to rise up and act out and push back even if violently by any means necessary to protest what they believe is injust. >> jeffrey, as a historian, what goes through your mind when you hear phrases like civil war and treason invoked by a president of the united states not in war times? >> two things in particular. i think the first thing is we don't really like to associate anything with the civil war. though there are some similarities building to be honest

horn author of the soul of america and presidency of vanderbilt university jon meacham. prize columnist and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. and before we dive in, joe, a quick look around the world where things are shifting a little bit. in some places they're staying the same. canada's prime minister is still on top while israel's prime minister sis on his heels. justin trudeau survived scandal to win a second tem. benjamin netanyahu failed to open a new governm

as historian jon meacham said quote the country is on trial. the fundamental question remains, what will we decide is acceptable behavior of the president of the united states? the answer to that will tell us a great deal about who we are right now. >> on this vote, the yays are 232. the nays are 196. the resolution is adopted without objection. the motion to reconsider is laid upon the table. >> the impeachment inquiry has not stopped since this vote. right now, timothy morrison, national security council senior director for europe and russia is on capitol hill to give his deposition to house impeachment investigators after stepping down from his post yesterday. over the last two weeks, trump has met with more than 60 house gop lawmakers and has made numerous phone calls and as the president tries to rally his republican lawmakers to defend him, political reports that during a private fundraising event at the trump hotel turned into a roast from president trump. he was totally in his element. among a long riff about a wide range of topics with

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i want to bring in historian jon meacham to this conversation.'m told among other details that distinguishes this morning from most other mornings on capitol hill, the speaker intends to preside directly over this vote in her constitutional role of authority running the house but she, of course, doesn't usually physically literally do that. your view of those kind of details and what we're seeing in the eyes of history this morning? >> right. that's exactly what the democrats are trying to do, is frame this as a historical moment where we determine the future course. the word crisis which we overuse, actually was popularized by hip poc cra tease, a medical term about the moment in a disease where the patient either lived or died. what the speaker is doing is saying this is a moment where our democracy lives or dies. she quoted thomas payne earlier, another thing payne said was tyranny like hell is not easily conquered and i think one of the things that people need -- of the popular folks who need to make up their mind about whether they want to s

our msnbc special coverage today, that includes gene robinson, senator mccaskill, heidi przybyla, jon meacham, melissa murray, and so many more. i really appreciate it. weal are more informed because it. that wraps up our special coverage. you can find me, ari melber, at 6:00 p.m. eastern on "the beat." right now we hand it off to an expert on this momentous and historicus day in washington. "andrea mitchell reports" starts right now. >>> and good day, i'm andrea mitchell, continuing our breaking news coverage of an historic day in washington. house democrats and one independents lawmaker passing resolution laying out the impeachment process by an overwhelming majority, final vote 232-196. what does it mean? today's vote permits house committees to move on to public hearings, allowing up to 45 minutes, this is critical, 45 minutes per side to question witnesses for sustained interrogations rather than the usually disjointed five-minute periods of questioning that have so damaged earlier hearings leading up to this process, particularly in the judiciary committee. the president's counsel and s

i want to bring back jon meacham, presidential historian. there are many daysia where we talk about history but they're not historic days. this now officially formally would appear to be one. particularly when you look at donald trump as an elected president facing now the potential impeachment inside his first term. only the second elected president who will ever be impeached. what do you see as the historical significance of congress being on the precipice of doing, having passed these rules moments ago? >> i suspect the president will become only the third president to be impeached. andrew johnson, bill clinton and i nowns suspect donald trump. whether he's removed from office is an entirely different question. in a way, the country itself is nowco on trial. the white house chief of staff, and i suspect strongly, i bet a lot of money that the president will end t up saying, yes, i di this. this is how i i govern and the bidens were in the wrong. i was trying toin find out abou this, they're corrupt, what are you going to do about it.'r do

horn author of the soul of america and presidency of vanderbilt university jon meacham. and pulitzer prize columnist and msnbc political analyst, eugene robinson. and before we dive in, joe, a quick look around the world where things are shifting a little bit. in some places they're staying the same. canada's prime minister is still on top while israel's prime minister sis on his heels. justin trudeau survived scandal to win a second tem. benjamin netanyahu failed to open a new government opening the door for his political rival. a lot going on. back here at home president trump claims he's the victim of the phone ny emoluments clause. that's a new one. we'll start with the impeachment inquiry. half of voters in six states that helped carry trump to victory in 2016 say they support the house democrats impeachment inquiry into the president. according to the latest "new york times" siena college poll put that support at 50% of voters in pennsylvania, florida, michigan, wisconsin, north carolina, and arizona. 45% say they oppose. >> willie, these national polls we hear tim