milan kucan, first president of slovenia. crosstalk.nown president of croatia, 41 senators in france, 52, and you know france is not very much for independence. . .foreign in the catalan government why have... crosstalk. if i may say so, you're cherrypicking. here's the eu commission official response. "it fully respects the spanish constitutional order including, crucially, the decisions of the spanish judiciary. 0ur position has not changed. this is and remains an internal matter for spain," and if you want to talk about the uk, well, you've obviouslyjust been because here you are in london, you will know the europe minister says that, "her majesty's government here in the uk, our position on catalonia is clear, this is a matterfor spain. the uk strongly supports the rule of law and it remains clear that political leaders, like anyone else, have to abide by the law. the spanish courts. i would love to reply to this. well, you will. "the spanish courts", he says, "are transparent and robust..." eventually, when you give me the chance!