brad terell, sia consulting. we looked at that, and one of the things that came back to us was why don't we just do it simpler, so we just developed an aesthetic that was a foreground element. so the base -- drag this with me over here. here, you see there, the way the box bays go up and penetrate and interrupt that background, so yes, the 2' 10'' parapet that's capped, the piece of metal -- >> commissioner richards: thank you point to it, please? >> it's here. >> commissioner richards: it's black? >> yes. and the box bays project and interrupt that. so we have a standard height where parapets are normally high, in this case, we're trying to control that in such a way that it keeps it simple, but something that's not trying too hard to overwhelm the street. it's certainly something we could dial in further if need be in conditioning with staff and the like. >> commissioner richards: i'd actually like to see it a little bit higher. >> well, we had a discussion -- >> commissioner richards: i have had involved in th