and there in these meetings is derek harvey dropping in occasionally. >> who is a nunes staffer?> top aide. >> so basically you have nunes up there sort of doing this, promulgating it from the microphone, but it also appears there's some reporting and allegations he's intimately involved with the whole crew to like the team basically of people that are running this operation to essentially spread this disinformation and achieve the ends that the president wants out of zelensky in the phone call. >> that's right. it's bad on its own terms and it's much worse and given we've gone through two weeks of public hearings and not a peep from nunes he's actually implicated -- >> that to me is the crazy thing. i feel a member of congress can travel where he wants to travel and talk to who he wants to as a member of congress. if he wants to talk to viktor shulkin, he can talk to viktor shulkin. he's a member of congress. hake do that. it's crazy that stuff happens and he doesn't say a thing about it while he's sitting in the impeachment hearing. >> unbelievable. >> while they're testifying

the only thing reported in the congressional record is that he and derek harvey and two other aides wentt they don't say who they met with? >> no. and this was quite deliberate according to my reporting, according to the lawyer speaking for parnas. derek harvey, the aide, told parnas that the timing was done deliberately to keep it undercover. >> vicky ward, thank you for the reporting, thank you for working it. look, we want it fair. mr. shokin, if you're listening, tell us what happened. mr. nunes, this is about the truth. come on and tell us what happened. don't say you're not going to answer the questions, you have to. vicky ward, thank you so. appreciate it. have a very good weekend. >> this, you cannot make it up. we are going to pick this up with a democrat who was vice chair of one of the impeachment committees but resigned amid of probe of her in congress. katie hill, still fighting back against what she calls a coordinated smear campaign to get her out. but one smear campaign at a time. we have to deal with what we just learned from vicky ward, what we learned in the inspector

>> what's intriguing is the timing of the trip and his aide, derek harvey, told lef lf that the timingry deliberate. it was done right after the republicans lost the house in the mid terms but before the democrats took over in january because once the democrats took over, he would have had to have disclosed the details of it. so this is why nobody has known until now what devin nunes was doing last december. >> so we don't know that the committee was told about his actio actions. >> no. the only thing reported in the congressional record is that he and derek harvey and two other aides went to europe. >> but they don't say who they met with? >> no. and this was quite deliberate according to my reporting, according to the lawyer speaking for parnas. derek harvey, the aide, told parnas that the timing was done deliberately to keep it undercover. >> vicky ward, thank you for the reporting, thank you for working it. look, we want it fair. mr. shokin, if you're listening, tell us what happened. mr. nunes, this is about the truth. come on and tell us what happened. don't say you're not going

and there is in fact in the congressional records nunes and his team with derek harvey going to viennate november to december 3rd, 2018. to europe, but they won't say where he went to, that's why he won't say on fox news were you actually in vienna, did you meet with shulkin, it's easy to say no. >> thank you for your time. >> thank you. >>> next, after republicans take their conspiracy theories about the now infamous steele dossier into impeachment hearings the founders of the steele dossier attempt to set the record straight and join me next. to se straight and join me next. does your broker offer more than just free trades? fidelity has zero commissions for online u.s. equity trades and etfs, plus zero minimums to open a brokerage account. with value like this, there are zero reasons to invest anywhere else. fidelity. there are zero reasons to invest anywhere else. i am totally blind. and non-24 can make me show up too early... or too late. or make me feel like i'm not really "there." talk to your doctor, and call 844-234-2424. there's a company that's talked than me: jd power.peopl

if you see the way kash patel and derek harvey, both have worked for congressman nunes, the way theyng dragged through the press for finding out the different abuses -- >> laura: need to sue for defamation. i said this last night, both should sue for defamation for what was done to them. >> that's our whistle-blowers -- real whistle-blowers are treated. there dragged through the mud. the person we are describing to the whistle-blower appears to be something of an entire different nature. >> laura: let's put up the bullet points just describing what we seem to know, what has been reported. real clear investigation. how accurate do you think this is? >> i think it is an excellent article. >> laura: cia officer at the white house come expertise with ukraine, worked for biden, worked for rice, worked for obama, also invited red flags for political bias, ties with a 2020 democratic candidate, joe biden says he worked for him. to me, when you look at this, victor davis hanson, this all starts to sound and feel and smell like what happened with the set up of the russia investigation. in the

the taxpayer's dime to europe and we know that it was deliberate because his aide, a man called derek harvey, told lev parnas whose lawyer is talking to us and says le lev parnas would like to say all of this to congress. >> is there any reason to question parnas's account? is there any evidence to back up his claim given we have nunes denying it altogether? >> we do know that lev parnas uses social media. there have been many photographs putting him in rooms with the president. they were at the white house together having a secret meeting while there was a hanukkah party going on. when lev parnas was arrested it was reported all of his electronic devices were taken and are now in the possession of the government. remember, he's facing indictment by the southern district of new york. his attorney has told me that he would not be making these claims were he not able to back them up with text messages, videos, photographs that are currently in the possession of the government. >> so it sounds like he wants to testify. he wants to talk about this. why hasn't he? >> he has been subpoenaed. his l

nunes aide derek harvey participated in the meetings, the lawyer said, which were arranged to help nunesinvestigative work. >> and now nunes could be facing a potential ethics review and a whole bunch of questions. now, one question is whether or not nunes took a taxpayer-funded trip where parnas' lawyer alleges nunes was looking for the same type of dirt that president trump asked for in that now infamous phone call with the ukrainian president. maybe that's why the congressman led the pack slamming the impeachment hearings maybe? >> whatever drug deal the democrats are cooking up here on the dais, the american people aren't buying it. it's an ambitious attack to deprive the american people of the right to elect a president the democrats don't like. i'm glad you're here. i'm really not glad you're here, but welcome to the fifth day of this circus. you are here today to be smeared. an inquisition victim had more rights than the democrats are giving the president. after all, inquisition victims had the right to know their accuser's name. >> well, nunes says the allegations about this meet

nunes aid derek harvey participated in meetings which were arranged to help nunes' investigative work. mcmann didn't specify what the investigations entail. >> without objection. >> mr. chairman, you have been falsely accused by proceedings by ranking member as being a quote, unquote fact witness. now if this story is correct, the ranking member may have been -- he may be the fact witness if he is working with indicted individuals around our investigation. i want to go to what this is really all about. first your credibility, mr. holmes, and can you tell us and confirm in 2014 you received the william rif kin constructive dissent award from the obama administration state department? >> yes, sir. >> that was for dissent you brought up against an administration policy, is that right? >> that's right. >> congratulations, and thank you for speaking up in the way you did. what we're really here about is what you're working on in ukraine. i want you to take a look at the picture. who do you see in the foreground of that photo? >> president zelensky. >> that's a photograph in may, 2019, wher

derek harvey participated in the meetings lawyers said which were arranged to help nunes' investigative work. mcmahon didn't specify what those investigations entailed. >> without objection. >> mr. chairman, you have been falsely accused throughout these proceedings by the ranking member as being a quote, unquote, fact witness. now, if this story is correct, the ranking member may have actually been projecting and, in fact, he may be the fact witness if he is working with indicted individuals around our investigation. but i want to go to what this is really all about. first, it's your credibility, mr. holmes, and can you tell us and confirm that in 2014 you received the william riff ken constructive award from the obama state department. >> was that for dissent that you beirut up against an administration policy; is that right? >> that's right. >> congratulations and thank you for speaking up in the way that you did. but what we're really here about is what you are working on in ukraine. i want you to take a look at the picture. who do you see in the foreground of that photo. >> preside

europe for rep devan unos in 2018 harnesses lawyer ed mcmahon told the daily beast noone has a derek harvey participated in the meetings the lawyer said which were arranged to help nunez's investigative work mcmahon didn't specify what those investigations entailed objection mr chairman you have been falsely accused throughout these proceedings by the ranking member as being a quote unquote fact witness. now if this story is correct the ranking member may have actually been projecting and in fact he have meant he may be the fact witness if he is working with indicted individuals around our investigation and i want to go to what this is really all about 1st it's your credibility mr holmes and can you tell us and confirm that in 2014 you received the william rivkin constructive dissent award from the obama administration state department yesterday and that was for dissent that you brought up against an administration policies that right that's right congratulations and thank you for speaking up in the way that you did but what we're really here about is what you're working on and ukraine i wa