and elizabeth cady stanton says, no. if you're not voting, you're not represented, and you have no guarantees, no ways of protecting your own station and your own rights. and i think she's guided to this by the fact that her father was in politics and the fact that her husband was in politics, and she's been observing politics all her life, so she knows the importance of it. he wins this point and gets -- she wins this point and gets in the document. now, i'll skip ahead a lot of years. obviously, the civil war sucks up everyone's attention. after the civil war, western states and territories view individually -- do individually allow women to vote. and before the 19th amendment is passed, new york state -- a year before -- lets women vote. elizabeth cady stanton has died, but there's one woman still surviving from the seneca fallsen convention. she's 102 years old. her name is rhoda palmer. she's lived all her life in geneva, new york, in two houses. she went with her father to the seneca falls convention. he drove her

have maybe elizabeth cady stanton coming to the salon to listen about the defensive suffrage, because what happens, it was passed in 1869. in 1871, wyoming was getting so legislaturehat the was saying maybe we should resend this act. is ann downey, and this exhibit of stephen, thinking about this possibly in this salon -- speaking about this possibly in this salon, speaking about these act -- this act. they were given such grief of an act giving women the same rights as men. the wyoming public about how important this was that we keep this, that we retain this. it was retained in 1871 by one vote in the legislature. fast-forward 17 years. wyoming territory is wanting to become a state. washington, d.c. says no one else in the world or in the united states is giving women these kinds of rights. you need to resend that act and then we will let you become a state. and we said don't care will not become a state unless we can hold all of these rights our women have had. when you talk about that wyoming had the first woman voter in the world in 1869, the first them in on a jury in 1870, fir

elizabeth cady stanton has yet died but one women is still surviving 102 years old from seneca falls lived all her life and only two houses that she went with her father to the seneca falls convention when she is 102 she is taken to the polls to vote. >> i hate to jump over the gettysburg address but that doesn't have a strong new york angle tell us about the statue and the plaque. >> yes. the statue of liberty was a gift to this country from france. it was a gift from a particular slice of a french nation. wringing your hands over american politics look at france sometime. [laughter] they really always have a tougher time than we have. they are reactionaries and so much further left than ours but there has always been in france a centrist liberal strain which has honestly admired republicanism to sustain the american revolution. and pushed for republicanism in france. lafayette the most famous of the beginning so during the second empire napoleons nephew in the middle of the 19th century as an authoritarian state as one of the liberals named edward is very interested and favors the

after the civil war, when elizabeth cady stanton and susan b. anthony split the women's movement apart by vowing they will not support the 15th amendment, which remofbz the barriers to black men voting, they won't support it unless women are also included, and this horrifies the other women who start a rival organization. so for 20 years, you have these two rival groups working at cross-purposes. and but one black man named robert purvis stood up for elizabeth cady stanton and stunz b. anthony in this rather unexpected decision to fight the 15th amendment. and purvis said, if me daughter cannot have voting rights along with my son, i won't vote for it because she has a double curse of being a woman and a black woman. so i think, you know, we have to say that there are always some men who have stood with women and i just wanted to throw that into the conversation. >> interesting. >> i think what's distinct in this particular era is that they organized. >> absolutely. >> and celebrity endorsers, it's always been back to thomas paine, john stuart,

elizabeth cady stanton wanted a broader standard. shewanted divorce reform, had a broad agenda, property rights, educational opportunities. b. anthony who said, no, we are just going to focus on the vote, and this sort of validates her. >> you also notice that because there are so many horrific things going on, women's issues tend to always get subordinated even by women. horrible, buts is not as horrible as fill in the blank. and that seems to happen over and over again, still. >> but i do think that one of the things i've noticed as i go the suffrage centennial, maybe 10 years ago since we were doing this, we would think about voting or women getting the vote notind of an important, such a big deal. but i think recent events have opened our eyes to the importance of voting, and voting rights, and voting suppression, in a way that makes what could have been a quaint centennial celebration much more relevant and timely. >> hear hear. >> than i think we would have expected. >> i think we have time for one more question. >> i was wonde

elizabeth cady stanton has died and there's one woman still surviving from the seneca falls convention she's 102 years old her name is rhoda palmer and she's always lived in geneva new york into houses. but she went with her father to a seneca fault convention and he drove her into carriage and they drove back home and which is 102 she's taken in a car to the polls to vote. >> as much as it pains me too jump over the gettysburg address, it doesn't have as strong of a new york angle but tell us about the statue and the plaque that we understand together. >> the statue of liberty was a gift to this country from france. it was a gift from a particular slice of the french nation. when you are in your american politics, look at france sometime. [laughter] the the data have always had a tough return than we have. but to have been reactionaries, left that is so much further left than ours but there has always been in france from the 18th century on, a kind of centrist liberal strain which has honestly admired american republicanism and proud of its role in sustaining the american revolution.

but theco sort of vast debate in reconstruction about rights, about citizenship, i called elizabeth cady stanton in the book saying that was a moment in her memoirs with all these issues were debated up and down the societyl in the courts, in the pulpits at every fireside, every fireside. you have to bring ordinary americans into this debate, particularly african-americans whose voice is almost never heard in the supreme court rulings are a lot of the literature. i just felt there was a sort of gap out there that i would try to fill, i guess. >> in the book you talk about the reconstruction amendments as quote the lasting legacy of reconstruction. we note of course reconstruction was the time after the war when attempt was made to establish an interracial democracy in this country, and it was overthrown with accommodation racial tariffs, legal and political apathy and reaction. i was just wondering how you solve this, this concept that this was a lasting legacy when that period itself proved to be relatively short-lived? >> yes. well, we often say with certainly a good argument, reconstruction f

in here, we have maybe elizabeth cady stanton coming to the salon to listen about the defense of suffrage because what happened -- it was passed in 1869. in 1870 one, wyoming was getting so much grief that the legislature was saying maybe we should resend this act -- in 1871. this is an exhibit of stephen downey speaking about this possibly in this salon, speaking about the defense of the act because in 1871, people were giving wyoming territory such grief about having an act where women had the same rights as men, and downey stood there, wrote a very remarkable speech and spoke to the wyoming public about how important this was that we keep this, that we retain this, and it was retained in 1871 by one vote in the legislature. forward 17fast years. wyoming territory is wanting to become a state. , says no one.c. else in the world or anywhere else in the united states is giving women these kind of rights. you need to resend that act and then we will let you become a state. wyoming said "don't care, then we will remain a territory. we will not become a territory unless we can withhold all t