i think at the moment, they do, thanks to the work of emmanuel saez and gabriel zucman. eye and that is very important and i think their work is going to contribute to a rethinking of the tax systems and in particular tax on the rich that people are, that the western government have progressively given up on. what we think needs to be done in complement to this approach is giving the public a much clearer idea of, suppose you could raise more taxes on the rich, what are you going to do with it because with the increasing inequality and deterioration of living conditions for the vast majority of people in the western world, combined with this huge increase in inequality, there has been a crisis of legitimacy of the government. the economists are the least trusted in their own field of expertise. only in the uk, in the yougov poll, 25% of people trusted them. the only people who are less trusted than economists are politicians and when you are in a situation where you have to face with issues that are, at heart, policy, economic policy issues like inequality or climate cha

ryan grim of the intercept, phyllis bennis of the institute for policy studies, and economist gabriel zucman. all that and more, coming up. welcome to democracy now!, democracynow.org, the war and peace repoport. i'm amy goodman. u.s. ambassador gordon sondland told the house impeachment inquiry wednesday that president trump directly pressured the ukrainian government to announce an investigation into joe biden and his son hunter and that other senior administration officials were "in the loop." during explosive testimony on the fifth day of public impeachment hearings, ambassador sondland said vice president mike pence and secretary of state mike pompeo were part of the effort to force ukraine into helping trump's re-election bid. sondland testified the officials knew president trump conditioned the release nearly $400 million in u.s. military aid and an oval office meeting with president zelensky on a statement about the bidens. >> i know members of this frame theseequently complicated issues no foform ofa simple question. was there quid pro quo? as i t testified previously with regard to