that's an insane amount of competition and one when one talks about their school leaving exams the gulko for example that's right the competition just becomes even more intense is all of this ultimately to try and get a good job and be become successful is that what it's about though that's part of it especially as the economy is contracting there's a feeling now in china as the economy is starting to slow down that there's not enough to go out right and if you already look at the education numbers which is the college entrance exam which you referenced it's actually high school which is more dramatic for more families you have half the kids stealing and falling off the ladder at that point at the age of 15 and before this kid. at least go off to a factory and earn a pretty good wage but those factories are moving to the naam to indonesia at the time that the chinese economy is slowing so now there's even more desperation to stay on that ladder make sure your kid gets all the way to the top but i wonder how much of it is cultural if that is if that even is a question i mean the reason i