. >> schifrin: for more on wha this stand-off means for hong kong, and china, we're joined by kurt tongo just finished a 29-year-career in the state department. he was the most recent u.s. consul general to hong kong, who served there from 2016 to july 2019. he's now a partner at ia group, an international business consulting firm. welcome to "newshour". thank you very much. >> thanks. pleasure to be here. >> reporter: what is the significance of this we're looking at now, the standoff in the universi, one of the first times we've seen protesters actually try and hold a littlebi of ground? >> i think that's right, it's a departure in strategy by the t proteste establish, essentially, a situation where they're under siege rather than using their old philosophy of move like water, have a prote and leave before they could get arrested. so i think it creates new risks both for the pr also for how the police handle it. >> sa the policedling of not only this moment but throughout this process, the protesters have talked about things like police brutality, that's language that they use, and we