this was not because john marshall's legendary persuasive powers. it was because if you look at care at the record, the indication was already there. a couple of other things. johnson joined the court after marbury. he was not part of that revolution. between marbury in 1810, there were few if any cases that came to the court which would arouse jefferson's ire. the single most important exception were the cases out of whererr conspiracy johnson in fact did dissent but not on a constitutional basis. peck10, fletcher versus presented the first opportunity for johnson to speak out in an toa near and dear jefferson's part. this was compounded by another development. in 1808, the treasured task which will not -- johnson issued an opinion with regard to the jeffersonian embargo where johnson took a position that countermanded the direct command from jefferson. this gave rise to an incredible dialogue. he delivered a little lecture, even president are subject to and should respond to the law. jefferson was outraged. he had his attorney general right a lett

first, in nature, marshall mayessly said, states regulate. two years later, in a companion more he said it elaborately. then in 1827, in his only dissent, marshall at length talked about no normalstency between the regulation of contract and the notion of the contract clause and the extinguishment, the revocation of a contractual agreement. so i think johnson's superficial explanation is a placeholder. the true explanation to me is his attempt to try and walk this fine line, to find a way to be principles, which were a blend of robust marshal nationalism and a certain respect for state rights. but to do it in the light of all so inof opinions, gibbons, johnson concurs yet an opinion within which he does a couple of interesting thing. say, excuse me. i think one of the reasons why we have a commerce clause is were such badates actors. so he says, the states caused problem. that's jeffersonian heresy. he then goes on, in that same opinion, to say i think the federal power over commerce is issued a duct that was ultimately resolved against ahnso

fiveank him and all of the grand marshal for being here today. i would also like to sincerely thank all of my fellow patriots who are supporting this great event, especially best-selling author and patriot -- navy seal eric brents. fedex ceo and marine veteran fred smith and a great anonymous -- made ourmade out event such a great success today for the united war veterans council. we are fortunate to be joined today by our commander-in-chief, president donald j. trump. and the first lady, melania trump. the first sitting president to attend the veterans day parade, which speaks volumes to his commitment to you, our veterans, and active duty military. there is truly no greater supporter of the united states armed forces then our 45th president. always had ahas special relationship with the military. and specifically with the new york city veterans day parade. over 25 years ago, donald trump he is continued that special relationship by making veterans affairs a priority since the moment he was sworn in as president of the united states. the men and

care than others, and allman believe he possessed the knack that marshall required. almond harbored bigoted attitudes against african-americans, but he was in either the u.s. military or civilian society at the time. most contemporary senior leaders shared similar low opinions of black men's abilities to fight effectively. the nation itself was undeniably racist, and segregation was the .aw of the land the years since that were have seen the glorification of the greatest generation when -- with all racist notions and ideas whitewashed. much has been made, but little was known about the challenges he faced in commanding large african-american units in a racially segregated army and society. no civilian community wanted large numbers of black soldiers in their midst, so the regiments trained individually at camp robinson, arkansas, cap atteberry in indiana, and camp wreck and in kentucky. almond dealt with all the challenges his brothers did an additional challenges of the separation of his units and segregation on those posts. many of those problems, once the unit was

marshall. -- george c. marshall. his performance their mark him as a martial man and destine him for the future success he would see. after the command general staff school, he moved to manila where he pioneered a technique for crossing a river using only the battalion's organic equipment. he began his transition to the army's senior leadership of attendance at the u.s. army war college where his classmates included major omar bradley, with whom he had also taught at fort benning, william helsley, and 46 other future flag officers. after graduation, he was assigned to the war department general staff. his love for training was rooted in his own thirst for knowledge, and he lobbied hard for the chance to attend both the air force tactical school, a predecessor of the air force war college, and the naval war college. he did very well in all of his academic assignments. this, unfortunately, earned him a teaching spot at the naval war college. he turned down the assignment in order to go back to ge

i will never be thurgood marshall and no onen in his room e.ll ever be thurgood marshall but still you can take away lessons about your own life and about what makes something worthwhile and about the kind of goals you want to set for yourself and the kind of good that people can do. >> anything about judging or being a justice that you learned from him thatt perhaps now you can see more clearly now that you are one? >> there are different times and we are different people and i would never say that i'm the same kind of judge as he was but it's different times, different circumstances and different as the malady but i suppose one thing that i appreciated at the time was the way he treated his clerks. he was a taskmaster, too. i say to because you can tell from elizabeth's conversation that i am kind of one. [laughter] but he really you know, he never did not know who was boss in that chamber. he'd couple of sayings that made your member that. one was sometimes he would say to him you have to do this and in this funny six -year-old way and you have to vote this way or join this opinion

it's funny that john marshall was our fourth chief justice. people would think of him as the first because of this ruling. was it immediately known how significant it was or did it play out over time? elizabeth: the significance played out over time. the chief justice, john marshall certainly knew the import of , what he was doing. again, who's doing it in a way where he wouldn't cause rancor and we can talk about how one of the key roles of a chief justice is exactly that, to preserve the court's role but do it in a way -- definitely deftly preserves the structure and doesn't provoke. he mentioned chief justice hughes and fdr's court packing scheme. this was the point when we saw the import of marbury versus madison coming into play. it's another great story in history. host: let me work my way through history a bit more. one thing before we leave this case. i understand that the court under marshall also established the tradition of speaking with one voice on opinions. before that there had been many chief justices with many opinions. what i

i am fire marshal for the city and county of san francisco. my role is i oversee the division of fire prevention and investigation. my hopes here today is to speak to code requirements. what are the minimum code requirements for vegetation management and wild land urban interface in san francisco? that is a good starting point. if we want to suggest solutions or strengthen the program, we should start with what is required and are we meeting that minimum? that is my intent today. if you have any questions regarding wildfire operations or training our deputy chief is here to speak to that. we will get started. my presentation will be brief, to the point. i will identify specific code sections. these are found in the fire code and in title 19. chapter 3 and 49. 3 is general and 49 is specifically wild land urban interface. they are two different things. we will look at two maps. these are developed and published by the cdf, california department of forestry, adopted by cell fire. -- california fire. these identify the different fire hazard sever

thurgoodver be marshall and probably nobody in this room will ever be thurgood marshall but still, you can take away lessons about your own life, about what makes something worthwhile, about the kind of goals you should set for yourself and about the kind of good that people can do. >> is there anything about judging or being a justice that you learned from him? perhaps you can see it more clearly. times andre different we are different people and i would never say that i am the same kind of judge as he was. different times, different circumstances, different personality. but i suppose one thing that i really appreciated at the time was the way he treated his clerks. too becausekmaster, you can tell from elizabeth's conversation that i am kind of one. he never -- you never didn't know who was boss in that chamber. sometimes he would say you have to do this. vote this way or you have to join the so opinion. he would say there are only two things i have to do. stay black and die. [laughter] which sort of shut you up. and sometimes, you would say something and he would say -- you see that

host: it's funny that john marshall was our fourth chief justice.eople would think of him as the first because of this ruling. wasn't immediately known how significant it was or did it play out over time? elizabeth: the significance played out over time. the chief justice certainly knew the import of what he was doing. again, who's doing it in a way where he wouldn't cause rancor or be seen. that's one of their jobs, to preserve the courts role, but do -- in a way that supports the structure and doesn't provoke. he mentioned chief justice hughes and fdr's court packing scheme. this was the point when we saw the import of marbury versus madison coming into play. it's another great story in history. host: let me work my way through history a bit more. one thing before we leave this case. this court under marshall established the tradition of speaking with one voice on opinions. before then, they had many many -- they had -- there have been many opinions. what is the importance of speaking with one voice? elizabeth: it adds to the credibility of the in

some decided it was in their best interest to turn themselves into provost marshals in the region. the stewart railroad junction in burkeville in order to receive rations for transportation. others were hunted down by the cavalry and decided there was no choice but to turn themselves in. regardless of the reasons in seeking or accepting parole, it reflected the flexibility and generosity of grant's term, but more importantly, this overlooked story is crucial to understand how the war ended. it does not fit neatly into our story of appomattox as a definitive role of peace, but we often see this. appomattox really is in each popular book at the work, appomattox is a stand-in for the end of the war. but the fact that at least 1/3 of lee's army was paroled at somewhere other than appomattox should tell us three things. first, second, history is messier and often less precise than we would like to imagine. and finally, that we still have a great deal to discover about the civil war. thank you. (applause) >> great talk. any questions? step up to the mic and ask a question. we have got on

so what did you learn from justice marshall about the law and about judging?>> you know, mostly what you learn from justice marshall was how people can advance justice. and i don't think anybody has ever done so much of it as he has. i mean, i view him as the greatest lawyer of the 20th century, in part because he did the most justice in his time. and in part because he was just a great lawyer. he was miraculously skilled at all kinds of different things. you know, you don't see lawyers like this anymore, people who were great trial lawyers, people who were great appellate lawyers. he did criminal cases, he did civil cases. one day he was arguing before the supreme court and the next day he was on a train down to some small segregated down in the deep south where, you know, he was fighting to defend somebody for -- a lot of the cases he did were death penalty cases in front of all-white juries, where it was hard to win cases. and everything he did, whether it was the big cases, the kind of brown v. board, developing that entire strategy, and whether it was the

resolved.disputes are john marshall said this is different.he constitution is a political document. it sets out the political stage. . it's also a law. if the law, we have the right to tell others what it means. that important insight into how the constitution works has been the secret to success. host: it's funny that john marshall was our fourth chief justice. people would think of him as the first because of this ruling. wasn't immediately known how significant it was or did it play out over time? elizabeth: the significance played out over time. knewhief justice certainly the import of what he was doing. who's doing it in a way where he wouldn't cause rancor or be seen. that's one of their jobs, to preserve the courts role, but do it definitely -- definitely -- deftly in a way that supports the structure and doesn't provoke. he mentioned chief justice hughes and fdr's court packing scheme. this was the point when we saw the import of marbury versus madison coming into play. it's another great story in history. host: let me work my way thro

and i should say that you were one of justice marshall's last clerks. wilkins was one of writing his first out of law school working for thurgood marshall before he was the justice -- >> when he was a legal defense. >> said, the line goes from voucher -- marshall to roger to you to elizabeth, and i hope beyond. so, what did you learn from justice marshall about the wall and judging? >> mostly what you learn from justice marshall is how people can advance justice. i don't think anybody has ever done so much of it as he has. i mean, i view him as the greatest warrior of the 20th century, in part because he did the most justice in his time, and in part because he was just a great lawyer. he was miraculously skilled at all kinds of different things. you know, you don't see lawyers like this anymore, people who were great trial lawyers, people who are great appellate lawyers. he did criminal cases, civil cases, he did -- you know, one day he was arguing before the supreme court, and the next day he was on a train down to some small segregated town in the dee

we are profoundly moved to have with us veterans of world war ii, including one of the grand marshalswoody williams. thank you. thank you, woody. [applause] thank you very much, woody. to the veteran of the war, the glory of your needs will only grow greater with -- deeds will only grow greater with time. this nation is forever in your debt, and we thank you all. we are also pleased to be joined by veterans of the korean war, the vietnam war, the gulf war, the war on terror, you are the -- and the war on terror, you are the reason our hearts swell with pride, our foes tremble with fear, and our nation thrives. would you please stand, so that we can honor your heroic service please? -- your heroic, service please? [applause] pres. trump: thank you very much. thank you. thank you all. each year, this parade highlights one branch of our military. this year, we honor the elite masters of air, land, and sea, the legendary leathernecks. the feared devil dogs. the first to flight, the united states marines. let's hear it. [cheers and applause] pres. trump: that's good. yesterday, we celebrat

to the marshals leading the little girl. ruby bridges still has a foundation and is a trustee of the norman rockwell museum. this painting, i should add, was also brought to the white house, president obama. and had ruby bridges come to the white house, and she showed president obama the image. >> if it hadn't been for you guys i might not have be here. >> just having him say that meant a lot to me. it always has. to be standing shoulder to shoulder with history and viewing history, is just a once-in-a-lifetime. >> 1965, rockwell wanted to reproduce for a magazine the gruesome killing of three students who went to mississippi to enroll motors. they were killed by the clansmen. in his drawings, rockwell focused on the gore and the assailants. in his final image he instead instead chose to make them in shadow, so you couldn't see the real perpetrators of the coin. you saw them as shadows, as ghouls. and made it people in a ubiquitous manner. something that would be too easy to attribute to one or two individuals. this is human

marshals. and the u.s. marshals were actually in there. what would happen next is the warden would come in and talk to the new convicts. if they were a furniture maker, then we did have in here, the warden begins to think how can we make money. he got paid for the state when it was a state institution. out how do to figure we make this prison run? and they work very well. they made furniture here. all of a sudden they were in the taxidermy business. an owl or an eagle or whatever. they had some makers in here. -- cigar makers in here. production was sweeping brooms. and produced 700 brooms per day in this building that the visitors will get to see. some of the original equipment is still there. and our volunteers make brooms exactly like they did on equipment like that. then you are going to the north cellblock. individualart has cells that have to be individually locked. they are not on the outside of the hall with a hallway down the middle. walkway goes around the cells. you are then going to go upstairs and see the dining hall. this is

secretary stinson, general marshall, general eisenhower, took that view as well. that everything should be done o defeat hitler and that was help european injury. -- jewery. >> you mentioned that most people realized he was par liles 6. when he was run for president in 1932, they cord up so much about his being paralyzed, dimmed people really know at that point or did they think he just had a limp? >> of course, i was only 3 weeks old at that time and my memory is not as good as it might be. i believe it was well known and photographers voluntarily would not take pictures of him and if someone did they would simply expose the negatives and destroy the negatives. the reason was it seemed immaterial. roosevelt was so vigorous and decisive that the fact that he was crippled seemed totally immaterial and when he was elected governor in 1928, newsmen in albany simply didn't take any pictureles of him because they felt that i would indict not give an accurate depiction of his courage and stamina and ability. so it was not a cover-up. people knew it but i think most peop

marshall chief of staff. as the situation grew tense in 1940, he reached out to the republican party and named henry simpson secretary of war. frank knox of the chicago daily news, who had been a running mate in 1936, secretary of the navy. when war came, he turned to admiral ernest j king to fight the fleet and recalled admiral leahy to be his own chief of staff. roosevelt nudged the nation toward a war. he was determined not to get too far in front of public opinion, but at the same time, to push the united states oward involvement. i have been struck, king george the sixth wrote roosevelt, by the way you have led public opinion while allowing it to get ahead of you. roosevelt and the king were quite close, quite friendly. i might pause to say that roosevelt genuinely enjoyed associating with royalty. he always called him george, lizabeth,wilhelmina. they always called him mr. president. on his own initiative, roosevelt flies the idea to provide aid for britain. let me pause just for a moment to say, the le

george marshall loved the system. in the 1930's.ed william depew was the first trading commander in 73 and instill iced -- institutionalized his training methods. what is the alternative? 2007, 2012, and 2015, we moved to a different learning model. education,ing and marines are calling it outcome based learning. adaptive training. the main thing is the models term how we have been taught on their heads -- turn it on their heads and there a lot of chapters on that. west point, one of the finest people i know with moral courage to change the way the army trained its leaders. corner we arehe doing a workshop at fort benny in 2015. great quotes from german manuals --ut how do we teach? there are chapters on how to facilitate. marshall at benny which was incredible. other techniques used by chris karnes called wargaming. studies.ase there is a chapter on how to create outcomes and measures. the people down in quantico trying to figure out this is how do we create outcomes. well-written, and defines success. you figure out

>> marshall, thank you. it's also important to, as i've said throughout this reporting, to consider the source, consider his circumstances, and the timing. why now? if he knew throughout the entire proceedings in the last two weeks that this meeting had happened, why wait until after the last witness before the intel committee to come forward with this offering. marshall cohen, thanks so much. all right. now let's go for more on those emails released last night to kristen holmes who's at the white house. what do you know? kristen, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, victor. well, this certainly casts a shadow of doubt, a large shadow of doubt over an argument that the white house was not aware of any of rudy giuliani's dealings in the ukraine. so essentially let's break this down. last night documents released, about 100 pages of documents from the state department. this was not done because they just wanted to do it, this was under a court order. we know that they have not been giving any docume

we are happy to have the fire marshall join us today. >> thank you. my pleasure. >> we talk about the san francisco earthquake that was a fire that mostly devastated the city. how do we avoid that kind of problem. how can we reduce fire hazard? >> the construction was a lot different. we don't expect what we had then. we want to make sure with the gas heaters that the gas is shut off. >> if you shut it off you are going to have no hot water or heat. be careful not to shut it off unless you smell gas. >> absolutely because once you do shut it off you should have the utility company come in and turn it back on. here is a mock up of a gas hear the on a house. where would we find the gas meter? >> it should be in your garage. everyone should be familiar with where the gas meter is. >> one of the tools is a wrench, a crescent wrench. >> yes. the crescent wrench is good and this is a perfect example of how to have it so you can loosen it up and use it when you need it. >> okay. let's go inside to talk about fire safety. many of the issues here relate to fir

as opposed to the marshals leading the girl. ruby bridges still lives in new orleans. has a foundation and is a trustee of the norman rockwell museum. this painting, i should add, was also brought to the white house. president obama asked for this painting, had it in the white house and ruby bridges came to the white house and she showed president obama the image. >> i think it's fair to say that if it hadn't been for you guys, i might not be here and we wouldn't be looking at this together. >> just having him say that meant a lot to me. it always has. but to be standing shoulder to shoulder with history and viewing history, it's just once in a lifetime. >> 1965 rockwell wanted to reproduce for the magazine a gruesome killing of three students who went to mississippi to enroll voters. they were killed by the klansman but he focused on the gore and assailants and in the final image showed to make them in shadows so you couldn't see the real perpetrators of the crime, the klansman who killed the students but you saw them as shadow

there were marshals and deputies and sheriffs. the west kept moving west to try to make the civilization he was both a gunfighter and also a law man. we start to see their was no expanding but making an attempt to join the rest of american civilization. he became a hero. they both would read these novels just like with silcox growing up and he would be the there. >> host: this is your second book on the west. west. you are a veteran on the east coast. >> guest: this one wasn't necessarily intended. i had done a book that came out a couple of years ago and it was just a fun story. it was supposed to be a one-off. why was this important? >> guest: it was the biggest cattle on the frontier. coming up from texas they could take it away and they get paid off and also took the city for the wicked out of the midwest that was the reputation that it had. i thought it would just be a fun book and i have a different book i was working on. then the first week it was the times best-seller list. i get back from the tour and i had lunch with my

eleanor roosevelt naacp thurgood marshall award and the fcl sees martin luther king servant award. i am kenneth mack and the lawrence professor of law at harvard law school and author of representing the race of a civil rights lawyer among other works and we are here to talk. our format today is we will allow mr. crump about 15 minutes to introduce us to his book and the really difficult stories that inspired it and i will ask him questions for maybe another 25 minutes and after that you will have the opportunity to ask questions of mr. crump and that will be the remainder of our time. without further ado we will start with mr. crump and give him 15 minutes or so to introduce us to this provocative and important book. >> thank you so much. thank you for having me at the boston book festival. as a trial lawyer i may stand because -- [laughter] i will tell you this is my mission that this morning i was in atlanta georgia with our common kaepernick, nfl, quarterback and activists and we were talking to a high school gymnasium of thousands of young people and so i spoke about 15 minute

here to help us break all of this down, cnn's marshall cohen. marshall, good to see you.hese hearings scheduled to begin on wednesday, and first up, bill taylor and george kent. what do we expect to hear from them? >> well, we're going to hear a lot. because they've already told a lot to the house impeachment investigators, so let's just go through them right here. bill taylor, he was the former ambassador to ukraine. he's now in a similar position there as the top-ranking american on the ground in kiev, and he basically has already confirmed that in his understanding of events, there was in fact a quid pro quo with ukraine in exchange for zelensky, the ukranian president, announcing investigations into biden and the democrats, then ukraine would get, quote, everything they wanted. a white house invitation, much-needed military assistance. that is damning testimony right there. >> bill taylor, he's the one in the text, you know, when he had a clear understanding of what was being withheld, military aid in exchange for -- he's the one who said, this is crazy. am i clear on

. >> bret: an impressive list of grand marshals for today's parade. >> there are five grand marshals and one honorary grand marshal that includes three medal of honor recipients including world war ii veteran, korean war veteran and also a vietnam vet and a couple of well decorated military veterans from both golf conflicts. and of the honorary grand marshal, the 30th commandant of the marine corps general david berger who i spoke with this morning. what's your message to america today? >> message to america. i think for a moment, just pause. think of what veterans have done for this country and what they are doing right now. when you see one in, shake their hand and told them thank you for their service. think their family for their service. this is the one day per year that we tell them thanks for guarding the gates. >> general burger told me he is thrilled to be in new york city and also excited to help pay tribute to the nation's heroes. >> bret: rick, you've been taking viewers to war zones for many years and obviously, you've spent a lot of time with the u.s. military but you'v

marshall, for five minutes. mr. marshall: thank you, mr. speaker. this past weekend i had the pleasure of joining agriculture secretary perdue in kansas city to celebrate relocation of usda's research agencies to the heart lavepbd. this move will save the country's taxpayers hundreds of millions of dollars in rent over the next decade. it will place the agriculture research center within a three hour drive of 19 land grant colleges. creating synergy and efficiencies in research thus giving more research to our ag producers more quickly. from colombia, missouri, to kansas city, to manhattan kansas, to lincoln, nebraska over 300 animal and pet health related companies dot the landscape. this area is known worldwide as the manal health corridor and accounts for over 50% of the total worldwide animal health diagnostics and pet food sales. by relocating the department of agriculture's ag research agencies to the certainty of the animal health corridor, and with construction in manhattan kansas near completion, the kansas, missouri partnership will truly

one requires greater partnership between the fire marshal and departments. one is making sure we do the things we think we are doing now. we think we are maintaining this 30-foot area. it would be really great for people in glenn canyon living on a house next to glenn canyon to have the reassurance the fire marshal has checked out that 30-foot area and given it his blessing that we are good. at least in so far as we are upholding the state standards, based upon what the state is telling us, nobody here should be worried. there may be a secondary project that may require more money. does san francisco want its own standards. we are dense on top of each other with the memory of the 1906 earthquake. there is kind of two things in there. i do think and what i present to you is a immediate task of doing the checking to make sure in areas with special concern like glenn canyon that, yes, at least as far as our current standards, san francisco has got this right and we checked. you can be absured about that. >> i don't remember 1906, but i remember 1989. if there a

and tsa's alleged inability to respond in such a way that keeps these air marshals from burning out. there's been a series of suicides, you had several allegations of sorry siri all occasions of mental health issues.. and much of it had to do with deprivation of sleep and too many hours. it is something that you're doing internally to address these issues in particular, if you could highlight for us something we can discuss later. >> thank you. and i look forward to discussing it more in-depth. i would note that that article do not bring forward new data, it was looking at prior information. the important piece to notice that we already had a number of items underway. the first is, whether we are looking at what the right mix and balances is of flying versus on the ground time. that can mean, your training time, it can mean what we call ground bases assignment, where you rotate out of lying for some period of time to perform some other security function, for example, at the airport. it also looked at how we provide services to our air marshals so that they have to help they need, sho

the one producer who wasn't there was gary marshal.ng outside and said it's not gonna happen then and that was it. >> the stars reunited at the jonathan club for the gary marshal theater's third annual founders gala. gary created "happy days" and passed away in 2016 following a stroke. >> you are here tonight because of gary. i'm going to play this for you. >> "happy days" to me was the show where the cast had the best semi-tri on and off the stage. >> that means a lot. >> oh, my god. >> another secret -- early in the series the network wanted the fonz to wear a cloth jacket, not a leather one, because they thought it made henry look too tough. but gary stepped in to change history. >> so he went to abc and said you know, he could be hurt if he wears the cloth and is riding a motorcycle. they said, okay. when he's with his bike, he can wear leather. he went down to the pay phone, he called the writer's room and said never write another scene without his bike. >> gary organized the show's famous softball team that travelled around the w

for that we turn to cnn's marshall cohen who's here. marshall, what more do we know about this? because it's pretty shattering stuff. >> martin, there is a chance this really could make waves as democrats continue to move forward in the impeachment inquiry. here's what we know. as you mentioned, the lawyer for this indicted associate of rudy giuliani, lev parnas, the ukrainian american businessman who was connecting guiliani with some ukrainian officials that were offering dirt on the bidens. as we reported last night, he wasn't just connecting -- he didn't just have knowledge of guiliani's ties for these people, he also is ready to testify that devin nunes had a meeting with a man named viktor shokin, the former prosecutor general of ukraine. the top dog in ukraine for several years until 2016 when he was forced out for not doing enough to crack down on corruption. and because of that, he sort of re-emerged now in this saga, offering dirt and information about the bidens, much of it sketchy, much of it uncorroborated, but it appears that he may have had an audience with devin n

i know you are having sort of case-by-case consultation with the fire marshal. i wonder if it would make more sense to have a more kind of comprehensive check in on whether the standard rec and park is using is the right one. i think it would be meaningful to residents to know that there had been an outside check from the fire marshal or through an outside assessment, yes, san francisco publicly owned properties are good, manage understand the appropriate way and brookly hills is not going to happen here. >> the record. we believe we are managing it is right way. i have not seen the presidio assessment. they will also evaluate low to moderate risk which aligns with the cal fire. the hazard assessment as well. it seems to be, you know, cohesive to me. we are always happy to seek third-party validation and to test best practices to make sure that they are still best practices. >> thank you. >> thank you. next up i will bring up the public utilities commission, and that will be joh john and damon. >> good afternoon. the ss p.u.c. to talk about our in city fire prev

marshal all ended up dead.sharpshooter shot his wife dead while she was carrying the baby in her arms. >> fbi agents are trained to shoot only to protect themselves or others. the rules of engagement for ruby ridge were rewritten. >> decisions were made within the fbi which allowed the snipers to shoot at anyone who was armed. it was completely unjustifiable. >> put a bullet in my head! hey, i'll make it easy. i'll turn my back on you. >> baby killer! >> not everyone who lives around here says randy weaver is in the right. but they say none of this would have happened if federal authorities had just left him alone. >> ruby ridge was not a story that was on the front page of national newspapers. most people didn't know about it at all, but it actually did energize the radical right. >> the siege ended at 12:15 when randall weaver and his three children walked off the mountain after 11 days. >> there is all this tremendous ferment that is arising precisely because of the end of the cold war. this mindset that the

john marshall harland, the only one who ever owned a slave becomes a great dissenter on these things. most of them, you know, these are not issues of great importance to them. they're much more interested in the rights of corporations. using the 14th amendment. they're much more interested in the balance of the states and the federal system. i just think they are going down the wrong path. another point, very important, there was other jurisprudence being proposed at that very time. it is not like the supreme court chose the only available path. black and white. putting forward very strong critiques of supreme court jurisprudence. those ideas are still out there. if we get a better supreme court one of these days, what i would like to see them do, what i would like to see them do is have the, you know, gumption to say we have been pretty much wrong for the last 75 years. let's start again. they don't tend to do that. >> right. [laughter] >> this whole question of legal precedents in jurisprudence. a formal parameter of. >> they adhere to president until they don't like president and t