your newspaper, "the new york times qwest "published a newspaper with the quote, anxious democrat establishments ask is there anybody else? establishment may be the key word in that headline, right? is that the case of the establishment and the kind of insiders being completely out of touch with the base who seem to be quite energized by people like elizabeth warren? >> great question. i think it's the establishment sort of center left democrats who may be out of touch with part of the base. as joe said the base is not entirely a, you know, a young, liberal sort of progressive movement, but the reality is you don't hear prominent liberals saying we need another liberal candidate to get in the race and we don't really like senator warren or senator sanders. we're talking to liberal voters around the country and there's a lot of enthusiasm for warren and for sanders. so what you are seeing with those establishment democrats is, you know, they look at joe biden and they hear the word salad when he gives answers and does not -- the kind of sharpness they want and they look at pete buttigieg and klob

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