. >> hank, steve forbes here, in terms of trade, if this thing is not resolved, what do you think thatment going into 2020, you know manufacturing has been hurt, ag has been hurt which has taken us from 3% down to 2%. >> right. >> what if this thing drags out? maria: don't forget u.s. and china trade talks now are being questioned facing a potential road block over the farm purchases, the president said that china has agreed to buy $50 billion in agricultural products from the united states but china is not ready to put an actual number onto it, an agreement and they are supposed to face december deadline. >> right, so steve, if it does not escalate i think -- i think u.s. businesses will ultimately adjust but broadly speaking, i don't think you can get an economy of much north of 2%, so i think we are back in the 2%, you know, plus or minus a tenth or two type of environment which has characterized the majority of this expansion, the longest economic expansion in u.s. history but also the weakest economic expansion, but if it escalates, then i think we have a manufacturing-type recess