i'm joined in the number chris phillips former head of the u.k.'s national counter-terrorism security office good evening chris. we one of the worst scenarios when you trying to keep people safe new year celebrations big crowds people people go to a very fortunate piece of information that they got to hope avoid an attack. yeah and what it does as well is that we live in such an interconnected world now intelligent sources of the us of obviously go are also dealing with people and that are planning. in. and i think we're going to see more of this because because of the use of internet telephones these interconnected groups able to strike anywhere across the world is this normally how things work we can see you know countries at loggerheads politically not giving an inch and trying to hurt each other with with sanctions and whatever but that would they still be behind the scenes working together when it comes to things like national security and fighting terrorism well i think everyone with holds information that could save innocent people's lives s

thanks to you thank you maria for national there in central moscow reporting let's go live to chris phillips now he's the former head of the u.k.'s national counterterrorism security office good evening to you chris and that's kind of it there in a nutshell where it seems increasingly so these days when you get a violent attack with fatalities involved this mass confusion for what can go on for for seemingly for hours even the authorities themselves can be quite slow or reluctant to confirm anything officially at the moment we're hearing that the deficit we haven't officially confirmed this is terrorism although the report saying that they have so the confusion as to say continues but what do you make of the initial inspection of the information which is that we have an assailant attempting to enter the f.s.b. headquarters shot dead they killed one person the press it's pretty likely wouldn't you say terrorism from your experience well i mean it is very early and of course. it may well be that they don't even know who this man is yet so you know you they need to look into that before they ma

s national counter-terrorism security office chris phillips. interesting that the threat level was reduced very shortly before this attack happened but we're seeing more and more previously convicted islamist terrorists being released back into u.k. streets the high level of threat would be because there were specific intelligence indicating that some sort of attack was being planned and it would be reduced if there was no such specific intelligence to substantial as a general threat level in this case because he was acting apparently as a lone wolf there would be no indication that he was planning anything they were being potentially no chatter out there to be intercepted so they would have seen any of the a preemptive intelligence that our spy agencies are actually mandated to try and gather all that they seem to be able to at the moment is gather intelligence which they can then use after an attack in the manner of our police forces to gather evidence to try and piece together what happened in the run up to such an attack that is not the wor

s national counter-terrorism security office that's chris phillips. it's turned out that after all these so-called lone wolf attacks these lone wolves having already been known to the intelligence agencies and police and yet have not been prevented from carrying out the attacks happened and yet in terms of dropping the ball in this case i can't imagine a more egregious example where someone should be monitored on a day to day basis by the authorities after being released from prison so i think this is a major concern and there are some serious questions our intelligence agencies in the west need to answer they have said for the last few years they need all these new laws they need all these new secret powers to snoop on all our e-mails our electronic communications to protect us from terrorists and yet and yet all these people already know seem to still get away with carrying out attacks now it's there it's a real problem for a criminal justice system which is not doing what it should do and that's keeping the public safe for some reason our criminal

we spoke to chris phillips former head of the because national counterterrorism security office who says the wrists work across borders and security services must do the sun. what it does as well is that we live in such an interconnected world now intelligent so so says the u.s. of obviously go are also dealing with people and planning incidents in. and i think we're going to see more of this because because of the use of internet telephones these interconnected groups able to strike anywhere so well you can only hope that countries work together not only against terrorism but the bigger thing actually possibly even bigger than terrorism is organized crime because organized criminals are wreaking havoc across the world at the moment we've seen people murdered in london a recently a lot to do with drugs and of course this is this is a big problem for all countries. that's the geishas are continuing into what caused a passenger plane to crash shortly after taking off from marty airport in kazakstan killing 12 people dozens were also injured in the incident on friday including children thes

and productive so it seems that both sides trying to keep the line of contact open we spoke to chris phillips he's a former head of the u.k. counterterrorism security office he says the case does highlight the need for cross border intelligence sharing. what it does point out as well is that we live in such an interconnected world now with intelligent sources the us of obviously gone are also dealing with people and that are running incidents in peterborough petersburg and i think we're going to see more of this because because of the use of its use telephones these interconnected groups. to strike anywhere across well you can only hope countries work together not only against terrorism but the bigger thing actually possibly even bigger than terrorism is organized crime because organized criminals are wreaking havoc across the world at the moment we've seen people murder their name london and other countries recently a lot to do with drugs and of course this is this is a big problem for all countries. the u.s. military has carried out air strikes in iraq in syria killing 25 people and injurin

productive so it seems that both sides trying to keep the lines of contact open well we spoke to chris phillips former head of the u.k. counterterrorism security office he says the case highlights the need for cross border intelligence sharing. what it does as well is that we live in such an interconnected world. is the us. also dealing with people and planning incidents in. petersburg and and i think we're going to see more of this because because of the use of internet telephones these interconnected groups able to strike anywhere you can only hope to come to work together not only against terrorism but the bigger thing actually people should be even bigger than terrorism we organized crime because organized criminals are wreaking havoc across the world at the moment we've seen people murdered in london of a country she said be a lot to do with drugs and of course she says this is a big problem for them. the u.s. military has carried out 5 s. strikes in iraq in syria killing at least 19 people and injuring dozens american officials have called it a defensive operation against an iran backed m

s national counter-terrorism security office chris phillips. in this case because he was acting apparently as a lone wolf there would be no indication that he was planning anything there were to be potentially no chatter out there to be intercepted so they would have seen any of the a preemptive intelligence that our spy agencies are actually mandated to try and gather all that they seem to be able to name and is gather intelligence which they can then use after an attack in the manner of cleese forces to gather evidence to try and piece together what happened in the run up to such an attack that is not the work of intelligence agencies that is the work of the police and it's an intelligence failure now it's there it's a real problem for a criminal justice system which is not doing what it should do and that's keeping the public safe for some reason our criminal justice system judges and the way our system works allows people out halfway through their sentence which means 5 or 6 years after e committed this apparent he was back on the streets a

productive so it seems that both sides trying to keep the line of contact open we spoke with chris phillips former head of the u.k. counterterrorism security office who says that the case highlights the need for cross border intelligence sharing. what it does point out as well is that we live in such an interconnected world now intelligent so sources that the us of obviously gone are also dealing with people and. incidents in. 2 petersburg and i think we're going to see more of this because because of the use of internet use telephones these interconnected groups able to strike anywhere you can only hope that companies work together not only against terrorism but the bigger thing actually possibly even bigger than terrorism is all the noise crime because organized criminals are wreaking havoc across the world at the moment we've seen people murdered in london and recently. a lot to do with drugs and of course he says this is a big problem for companies. because of standards held a day of mourning for the 12 people killed in a plane crash on friday dozens more were injured in the tragedy inc

danger when lives are at stake differences can very successfully be set aside so we spoke to chris phillips the former head of the u.k. counterterrorism security office he says too that the case highlights the need for cross border intelligence sharing. but it does work that is really sad that we live in such an interconnected world that intelligence sources in the us evolve as you go also dealing with people that are running incidents in critical. and i think we're going to see more of this because because of the use of its use telephones these interconnected groups. to strike anywhere across the world you can only hope countries work together not only against terrorism but the bigger thing actually possibly even bigger than terrorism is organized crime because organized criminals are wreaking havoc across the world at the moment we've seen people murdered in their london and other countries recently a lot to do with drugs and of course this is this is a big problem for all countries. iran's foreign minister mohammed that ethan is currently in moscow at the moment he's just held a meeting

s national counterterrorism security office chris phillips believes an important part of the fight against terrorism is preventing the attackers from getting publicity. so a slightly different terrorist attack and we've seen recently most terrorist attacks over the last 5 or 6 years have been aimed principally at the public the public have been the target killing as many innocent people as most of you know this was very very different in the not only was a man with a machine gun probably in a k 47 i don't know but probably a mean directly and the headquarters of one of the probably if not the most guarded location in moscow and what that means is that maybe it wasn't. maybe this was someone with a grudge maybe this was someone that feels that they've been badly treated all that will have to come out in the photos and so on but of course what we've seen here is an individual being killed in most certainly someone standing on the gate and that's most dangerous place to be in. these sort of locations but an attack on the most defended place in moscow is never going to turn out very well but i

thank you, phillip, good day, i'm chris jansing at nbc headquarters here in new york. tracking the tweetstorm swirling around mar-a-lago. president trump following his christmas night attack on nancy pelosi's impeachment strategy with a string of tweets taking more political shots at the speaker. the president expressing frustration with pelosi's decision to hold the articles of impeachment in the house until she gets some concessions from senate majority leader mitch mcconnell who seems willing to wait out pelosi. mcconnell has a more pressing problem with his own caucus where more independent members like alaska's lisa murkowski are less than enthusiastic about his comments about being in complete coordination with the white house for the impeachment trial. >> in fairness, when i heard that, i was disturbed. if we are tasked as the full senate to do impartial justice under the constitution and the law, to me it means that we have to take that step back from being hand in glove with the defense. and so i heard what leader mcconnell had said. i happen to think that tha

thank you, phillip, good day, i'm chris jansing at nbc headquarters here in new york.cking the tweetstorm swirling around mar-a-lago. president trump following his christmas night attack on nancy pelosi's impeachment strategy with a string of tweets taking more political shots at the speaker. the president expressing frustration with pelosi's decision to hold the articles of impeachment in the house until she gets some c

chris. >> you are a gift. i welcome you in in you year. phillip, you're new, thank you for being my guest. in terms of context, what do they raise as you for issues spider? >> the big thing is this really del strai demonstrates a break in terms of the cohesion, specifically within this team. i don't know that i can extr extrapolate and say the seals have a challenge. let'sin fra ibe frank, the seal had a challenge for 18 years. you have these pressures on these teams but when you look at that video, i have to assume that our priority any mission, there were conversations that say we have some challenges, let's follow those. if they didn't have those conversations, you have more than just a fractured cohesion within that team, you've got a real breakdown in terms of leadership challenges and again, as i said, i can't extrapolate out to the force but this needs to be addressed. >> to keep it specific, phillip, you know, we're not used to hearing seal team members talk about one another this way. we're not used to hearing them challenged as to being cowardly. of course this was a piece of lit

political analyst david gregory and cnn correspondent abby phillip and chief legal analyst jeffrey toobin. let's listen to some of what chrisay, the fbi director, has said on "good morning america." let's just start, i guess, with s 12 for nfun. >> the fbi, was it part of some deep state? >> i think that's the kind of label that's a disservice to the 37,000 men and women who work at the fbi. that's not a term i would ever use. >> so the fbi did not spy on the trump campaign? >> well, that's not a term that the fbi we use to describe our work. >> do you have any evidence the fbi targeted the trump campaign unfairly? >> i don't. >> okay. well, that's the opposite of what president trump has said for the past three years here's what president trump just said this morning a few minutes ago. i don't know what report current director -- >> current, right? >> current director of the fbi christopher wray was reading but it sure wasn't the one given to me. with that kind aof attitude, he'll never be able to fix the fbi despite having some of the greatest men and women working there. that doesn't bode well calling someone current dir

phillip mena if for hallie jackson. coming up, more news with my colleague chris jansing. >> good to see you, phil. at mechanics headquarters in new york. while a con sten shows impeachment stalemate continues to irritate trz during his mar-a-lago halladay, a barrage of at which timers against nancy pelosi continuing thursday night and into this morning. attacks many congressional democrats see as a sign their leader is getting under the president's skin. house republicans believe there's a method to the madness. this persistent social media campaign against spoker pelosi could embolden the gop base and convince undecided voters that republicans should regain control in 2020. joins me, nbc's hans nichols in west palm beach, heidi przybyla, carlos curbelo and chuck rosenberg. great to see all of you. hans, it seems there are

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phillip carter welcome to the show. best for the new year. >> thank you, chris. >>> topic shift. one point of frustration for many of you is the sense that the two political parties are reading from the same script when it comes to impeachment. they just change roles from when it was clinton's impeachment to trump's. well, there is new tape being circulated of senate minority leader schumer that plays on this point. in fact, it's being used by the president and his defenders to do exactly that because he was saying something very different -- mr. schumer -- decades ago from what he's arguing now. what is its relevance? let's take it on with an influential house player next. ee of yourself. but nature's bounty has innovative ways to help you maintain balance and help keep you active and well-rested. because hey, tomorrow's coming up fast. nature's bounty. because you're better off healthy. ♪ ♪ everything your trip needs, for everyone you love. expedia. for everyone you love. the wait is over. t-mobile is lighting up 5g nationwide. while some 5g signals go only blocks, t-mobile 5g