and joe digenova and victoria tunsing are also joe solomon's lawyers.o this all seemed to be a very, you know, intricate plot to kind of launder all of this information into the american media thereby mainstreaming this narrative that joe biden was acting corruptly in ukraine. >> fthe justice department stil hasn't said anything apparently according to "the new york times" when the lawyers went to doj and tried to lobby barr directly on the issue of his extradition, barr said, look, we don't want to get involved in this. go to chicago and speak to the prosecutors there. >> right. >> but they are apparently still trying to go to the justice department and get them to work on this case. >> fascinating. natasha bertrand, thank you very much for that. >>> coming up, former cia director john brennan and the dang he says president trump is inflicting on our government. he joins me ahead. joins me ahe. >>> one of the most unnerving aspects of russian election interference that we've learned about since the 2016 election is that there were russian actors that w