kage for the edges who willemployees who will be terminated as they are contracted out and the city takes oversight. we estimated that based on 194 employees in may, and about more than 40% of those who were look-term employed, the cost of the package could be up to $5 million and now in our discussions at that time with the housing authority, our understanding was there potentially were sufficient reserves to pay this but it was not absolutely clear. so that is definitely a risk area. the third risk area is a pension liability, which at the time of the audit was -- and the retiring health benefits -- estimated at $61 million. again the projection showed through 2023 that there would be sufficient payment in each year to pay down that liability to about $40 million. after 2023, it was uncertain how that liability would be paid down and our discussions at that time with the housing authority, there was an assumption there would be sufficient residual receipts to pay down that liability but it is an ongoing risk for the housing authority. so in terms of our report, we made 16 recommendation

. >> seth: yeah. [ light laughter ] >> so, it's like a song about anxiety called, "don't blow it, kaged did you feel good once you got in the room it was a good -- it was a good vibe being there with jack >> it was surreal. i highly recommend it. if you get a chance to party with jack white. [ laughter ] >> seth: yeah, in nashville, no less >> yeah. >> seth: do you remember the first song you ever wrote when you were a youngin >> god, yeah you know, the first song was a song -- well, we were trying to write the best song in the world. it was me and kyle we were sitting down and just thinking, what can be the -- there was something about the greatest and the best. it was very -- >> seth: i think it's really amazing, the way you guys decided to start [ light laughter ] >> yeah. >> seth: was by writing the best song in the world. [ laughter ] >> well, we -- and we tried. we tried for months. >> seth: yeah. >> lots of stoney sessions on the stoney stone couch [ laughter ] and then we realized we can't. it's impossible. [ laughter ] let's just write -- let's write a tribute to the greatest