(audience applause) [smith] tommy orange, welcome. orange] thank you for having me. [smith] thank you very much for being here. so, i love the book. i wanna talk all about tt book and talk all abu, but i wanna talk about the title of the book first. so i didn't actually get the reference until after that this is gertrude stein. [orange] mm-hmm. [smith] right? like you, an oaklander. is that the right way to say it? oaklandit [orange] oaklander. [smith] oaklander. [orange] yeah. [sth] so gertrude stein mously said of oakland, "there's no there there." and this is esponse, this is your rebuttal of gertrude stein. [orange] and it's also, i wouldn't put so much of the weight on gertrude stein as more on people who have sort of misused that quote. because she was just talking about her childhood home. [smiry specific. [orange] and it was developed over. so in her "everybody's" autobiography, somebody asks her, "why don't you write about oakland?" "there is no there there." she's just talking about r experience. and so people have used it to say oakland has no character. a