well what was said was by the civil aviation organization the civil aviation organization doesn't have any kind of its excess to the secret information of the armed forces this statement that came to day was by the iranian armed forces and they have done and independent investigation of their own personnel independent from the flights and from the civil aviation organization and they have they have come up with their with their result on their own side of the story it's good that they didn't wait for the civil aviation organization and the international team of inspectors and investigators to come up with a result because it would take weeks or months for them to extract data from the black box and come away with a final report so they have cut short you know this this way and they've haste and investigations on their own side of the story out there they they they they were there were some theories and asylum sions that there might have been a strike a missile strike and they came away with a conclusion a couple of days yesterday they have come up with a final results and presented it

well let's go live to see ron where the head of iran's civil aviation organization is speaking to the press let's listen to ali abdul is. still. conducting investigations however before i start i would like to address the iranian people saying that the recent statements made by the ukrainian and american parties and other statements made by politicians. as you know the matter of complex technical details. and iran together with ukraine are following up with the investigations and once a technical report is concluded. they will be presenting to their current and canadian leaders and they will disclose their outcomes to the whole world. and. as you may notice that the latest information we have. presented related on time. if they have technical proof they can come forward and presented. but this is a very important point however. considering the fact that . the information contained in the black box. all the fusion systems including the recent conversation between the pilots these pieces of information are very critical. there are hundreds of technical points that should be at rest befo

denial we had government ministers coming out to say that it was nice we had the head of the aviation organization saying that to a scientifically impossible and illogical that to me so i have bought that the airplane but people here are angry they are asking for accountability and justice and precisely you know with the revolutionary guard admitting responsibility and the government promising accountability what can we expect justice and accountability to look like. well the president has an rouhani did come out yesterday and issued a statement he said there had to be a thorough investigation that those responsible should be held to account and prosecuted if necessary now this morning the parliamentarians have had a closed meeting with the head of the revolutionary guard but we understand that there will be an inquiry and a report but also $180.00 members of parliament have issued a statement pledging support for the revolutionary guard as a revolutionary entity and saying they won't allow people to attack the revolutionary guard just because someone has made a mistake but there were protests her

we had government ministers coming back to say that it was the lies we had the head of the aviation organization saying that it was scientifically impossible and illogical. and airplane people have angry asking for accountability and justice. the emir of qatar has landed in tehran he's the 1st national leader to visit the iranian capital since the assassination of iranian general customs all the money by the u.s. qatar has called for a peaceful solution to regional tensions a cease fire has come into effect in libya after warlord who leave for half the agreed to the truce just hours before the start of the pause in fighting was brokered by the leaders of russia and turkey to support opposing sides in the conflict another agreement between moscow and grans led to a ceasefire in italy province the last rebel held territory in syria by lance's brain escalating this instruction back to government forces launched an offensive to retake it in december. at least one person is being killed and 4 others injured after anti-government protests in the iraqi city of karbala the security forces denies shootin

iran seems to have backtracked a bit on that initial statement with the head of the civil aviation organization there saying that they had extended offers to cooperate in the investigation not only to ukraine but also to the u.s. to sweden and to canada ukraine does not appear to yet have concerns about whether it will get access to the black boxes of the plane president he in his in his video address released on social media earlier today said that the ukrainian commission the $45.00 ukrainian specialist sent to iran would be involved in reading the black box. journalist matthew 1st speaking to us from the kiev post thank you so much. for that plane crash came on the same day that iran fired missiles at bases hosting u.s. troops in iraq now president trump said basser to the united nations has said the u.s. is ready to engage without preconditions in serious negotiations with iran it appears to be a sign of deescalation although the region remains on tenterhooks. siren so if it baghdad on wednesday night rockets hit the iraqi capital green zone a high security area housing the u.s. embassy no

major airlines of other cancelled or suspended flights to and from iran and the european aviation safety organization is advised against flights below 25000 feet. iran has maintained it should carry out the investigation into the trash head of iran's civil aviation authority has spoken about where the inquiry has reached. it's very obvious when the plane took off from the airport after 2 or 3 minutes of course fire the reason it's not clear now is the pilot tried to return to the airport and change the route towards the airport and he shows that he was aware that an accident that happened he crashed on its way back if a missile that hit it it would have crashed in the original direction he says the plane did not explode till it hit the ground the head of nato is backing the assessment that iranian missiles brought down the plane and started burning is calling for a full transparency from tehran during the investigation we have no reason to. believe the reports we have seen from different or nato allied capitals have expressed concern about. information indicating that the. plane may have been downed

i think that would have to be done under the oversight of the international civil aviation organization they get involved in these matters. >> what is your experience if you have experience in what i would describe as any kind of an analogous situation where there may have been a crash in a country that was not particularly friendly with the united states. has the record shown that the investigators were free to look and go where ever they wanted to, for example, to examine the fuselage for signs of shrapnel that could have come from a missile e et cetera? >> under my watch, we had the egypt air investigation which i insisted be delegated to the ntsb it was a full and fair investigation. the egyptian government at the end disagreed and blamed the cause of the accident on problems with the boeing 767 but it was a full complete investigation and it's on the ntsb website >> phil, does this give boeing a bit of breathing room? >> well, i don't know how much breathing room look, an accident is an accident no aircraft manufacturer wants that to happen, eve b b en the i it's an unintended miss

shot down and ukrainian airliner killing all 176 people on board the head of iran's civil aviation organization says the plane caught fire and was having technical difficulties prince's air accident agency has confirmed it will be involved in the investigation the u.s. is also offered assistance. iran has maintained it should carry out the investigation into the crash after several western countries offer to play a role as we mentioned the head of iran's civil aviation authority has spoken about where the inquiry has reached. the load of on medicine and. it's very obvious when the plane took off from the airport of the 23 minutes of course the reason is not clear now the pilot tried to return to the airport and change the route towards the airport and he shows that he was aware that an accident happened the crashed on its way back if a missile that hit it it would have crashed in the original direction he says the plane did not explode till it hit the ground. the head of nato is backing the assessment that iranian missiles brought down the plane installed in bird made the comments at an emergen

a blanket denial the head of iran's aviation organization on state english language tv. >> translator: the allegations it was hit by a missile is totally ruled out. >> reporter: citin caught fire three altitude of 8,000 feetreturn t airport but the fire was too intense and exploded officials also denying iran is unwilling to hand over the black box to foreign a witness on local tv says he heard an explosion, went to the scene, and saw bodies and the aircraft in pieces iranian news agency close to the government said the story that iran shot down the plane by accident or otherwise is psychological warfare from the cia to deflect attention from the iranian missile attack. >> richard, what's iran's calculations behind the blanket denial >> reporter: big domestic considerations iran is trying to show strength that its moder military delivered a slap in the face to the united states. if that's the message it wants to show the iranian people, not that the military was somehow incompetent. lester >> richard engel, thank you. >>> beyond iran that crash was an enormous tragedy for canada which

most of the passengers but also as we know doesn't connect us and the international civil aviation organization will probably also have some response they will all call on iran now that the did meet and it's guilt and he doesn't matter what their records a particular officer or an order from above it doesn't change the result so iran will probably now proceed to pay compensation defense and political commentator amir oren thank you for your time and your comments. u.s. secretary of state has defended washington's decision to assassinate iran's top general very news conference my pump a struggle to explain the alleged threat posed by general samani as he was grilled by journalists have often has more. things got quite easy at the press conference where we saw mike pompei o the u.s. secretary of state speaking alongside steve minutia in the secretary of treasury and this comes just a week after the killing of iran's top general qassam solomonic and as the press asked questions got particularly tense mike pompei o seemed a little bit uncomfortable trying to answer the questions of journalists who

iran seems to have backtracked a bit on that initial statement with the head of the civil aviation organization there saying that they had extended offers to cooperate in the investigation not only to ukraine but also to the u.s. to sweden and to canada ukraine does not appear to yet have concerns about whether it will get access to the black boxes of the plane president bullet in his in his video address released on social media earlier today said that the ukrainian commission the 45 ukrainian specialist sent to iran would be involved in reading the black box journalist matthew cofer speaking to us from the key of post thank you so much thank you now and the day after of iranian missiles had bases hosting u.s. troops president trumps ambassador to the united nations has said the u.s. is ready to engage without preconditions in serious negotiations with iran now it appears to be a sign of deescalation but iran has made it clear that it is still determined to drive u.s. forces out of the region neither tehran or washington have indicated they want the situation to escalate further and diplomacy

we're going to stick to it right and just in some hours ago the head of the iranian civil aviation organization early a bad day he said scientifically it's impossible that a mistrial hit the ukrainian plane such rumors he said are illogical scientifically is it impossible that missiles could have hit this plane it's certainly not scientifically impossible even manned movement portable shoulder fired missiles could have an airliner a 1000 seats on. i'm out there's plenty of surface to air missile. batteries there on international as well so an iranian f. 14 space quite nearby on the other side of which has its own self as to a missile batteries for protection and the whole system is on high alert what it should be is procedurally how to run been following the procedure as you would expect from a country on high alert 'd 'd winds at an air defense network that is supposed to be reasonably capable and also a reasonably capable supposedly civil aviation authority and that traffic control service it should be precede your really almost impossible because to have happened the fact that it seems almos

let's go live now to syria on where the head of iran's civil aviation organization is speaking to the press let's listen to ali abdul is. still. conducting investigations however before i start i would like to address the iranian people say that the recent statements made by the ukrainian and american parties and other statements made by politicians. as you know the matter of.

russia or ukraine at france or canada but 1st want to do it themselves so head of iran's civil aviation organization said if we can do it ourselves we will if not we will definitely ask for assistance from other countries now the iran investigation from boeing said the u.s. ukraine france and canada are looking all looking into the cause of the crash the u.s. canada and the u.k. have all said that it was downed by an iranian missile this is something that iran has denied but just an hour ago just earlier today on our very own news with rick sanchez an iranian source told rick sanchez that iran the investigation shows if the investigation does indeed show that that plane was taken down by the an iranian missile. and it appears that they'll have to accept that conclusion so it's still ongoing they've asked for help from other countries whether or not they'll share that information of the black box in with the other countries that will obviously help clarify what happened but that still remains unclear very dangerous not so friendly skies our 2 correspondents and thank you so much if you christie. the

from the authorities less than 24 hours before saturday's admission the head of iran's civil aviation organization spoke to al-jazeera. it was a us it is very obvious that it was not hit by a missile if a missile hit it it should have crashed in its original direction. and this is what's causing more anger among iranians the fact that it took officials more than 48 hours after repeated denials to reveal what really happened. there was also criticism when to preform the wreckage was moved from the crash site possibly tainting evidence. the announcement comes a day after iran gave a ukrainian team access to the plane's black boxes. evidence that could be crucial for putting together a timeline a group of international aviation experts is now part of the reigning investigation but this case could complicate further a region that's already in crisis the head of or also to sherry has asked for all the evidence to be handed over to be investigated and the man in charge of iran's revolutionary guard will be briefing m.p.'s in a closed door session in parliament but what is not clear is how this will impa

aviation. organization here in iran and what he said was that it's scientifically impossible and it is logical that the ukrainian plane was hit by a missile he said that there were several domestic and international airplanes in the air and at that altitude a missile could have talked to any one of them could have reached them but that hasn't happened now he said that there's also a complete coordination between the military and civilian sectors here in iran and he said that any talk of shooting down a plane is false rumor so iran is being very defensive at the moment to be adamant that this plane was not shot down but as you've seen just before i came on air that there is footage emerging and governments are saying that it's increasingly the have some evidence that suggests that it was shot down by a missile and then let me just give you some of the geography around the airport it's about an hour away from the hans it's not into her arm for sale and it's a modern airport it was open. and around 2004 had a 2nd opening around 2008 and it services international flights now the question the main

mistakenly shot down a ukrainian airliner killing all 176 people on board the head of iran's civil aviation organization says the plane caught fire and was having technical difficulties france's air accident agency has confirmed it will be involved in the investigation the u.s. has also offered assistance in the investigation. the head of nato is backing the assessment that iranian missiles brought down the plane it's starting berg made the comments at an emergency e.u. foreign ministers meeting in brussels aiming to save the 2015 iran nuclear deal and to convince iran to continue its commitments under the a cold. their state department says it will not discuss troop withdrawal agreement with the iraqi government iraq's prime minister abdul mahdi asked the u.s. to send a delegation to baghdad to discuss the issue but the state department says any american delegation would be dedicated to discussing how to continue quote a strategic partnership. and the u.s. navy says one of its warships has been aggressively approached by a russian naval vessel in the north arabian sea destroyer u.s.s. fara good sounded

families of the wounded he said that this was psychological warfare we had the head of the aviation organization in this country in iran say that it was scientifically impossible and illogical that a missile put down that airplane earrings would be thinking you've given us these denials from the government to the aviation authorities what what changed your mind we're also hearing from state to media that the supreme leader ayatollah khamenei was made aware that the myside had bought the plane yesterday afternoon on friday afternoon assoon as he was made aware he convened a national security meeting and said that the iranian people must be made aware of this now there will be anger in this country but also embarrassment in nationally and internationally in 1988 the u.s. navy brought down an iranian airliner and just days ago president rouhani tweeted that donald trump reminding him that that's what america had done and for years iran has said to the united states how could you not tell the difference between a military aircraft and a civilian aircraft now it seems like iran has made a mistake her

airlines have either cancelled or suspended flights to and from iran and the european aviation safety organization has advised against flights below 25000 feet . when iran has maintained it should carry out an investigation into a crash the head of iran simulation authority has spoken about where the inquiry has got to. it's very obvious when the plane took off from the airport after 23 minutes of course fire the reason it's not clear now the pilot tried to return to the airport and change the route towards the airport and he shows that he was aware that an accident that happened it crashed on its way back if a missile that hit it it would have crashed in the original direction he says the plane did not explode till it hit the ground. well more on this we can speak to a patient safety expert david levy thanks very much for coming to talk to us so what are the key elements in an investigation like this one the 1st thing is going to be looking at the data recorders we've seen pictures of them just just now and reading out the data if there's not the if they suddenly stop in midair showing no mechani

shot down a ukrainian airliner killing all $176.00 people on board the head of iran's civil aviation organization says that the plane caught far and was having technical difficulties with the flight had taken off from tehran on wednesday on its way to kiev it was the same night that iran had launched air strikes into iraq in retaliation for the u.s. killing of its top commander rob matheson has the very latest. this video posted by the new york times newspaper appears to show an explosion as ukraine airlines flight 75 to is struck the plane flies on for several minutes before turning back towards to han airport where security cameras capture the moment it hits the ground among the dead was $63.00 canadians we have intelligence from multiple sources including our allies and our own intelligence. the evidence indicates that the plane was shot down by in your opinion a surface to air missile at the time of the crash in iran. had fired missiles at bases in iraq hosting u.s. troops iran's military was prepared for a u.s. response but iran says the plane was not hit by a missile had to go near. any sta

investigating then people would understand but for 3 days did not only deny did the head of the aviation organization said that to a scientifically impossible and illogical that a missile had brought down the airplane and that's the main reason why people are angry thank you very much for that big life for us in tehran and we'll have more on the fallout from the iranian pain crash canada as the reigning community is in mourning when port from one of the cities hardest hit by this tragedy and as our minds new leader takes the helm we look at the pressures he'll be facing on the international stage to stay with us we're back after the break. the showers are building again in indonesia it's quite a mass of sherry's stuff it is the rainy season and we've seen flooding from it the next 24 hours it seems like you jarvis. can stay fairly dry they have his and they have his a further north across a way but that line extends beyond sumatra and about time you get to choose to i think some pretty big shadows a lot of for end of the day in central and southern sumatra smart just affect your car to know so well t

should respect the findings of the investigation panel now also the head of the iranian civil aviation organization has been speaking and he said that it's scientifically impossible and illogical that the plane was shot down by a myside he says that there were several other planes domestic and foreign up in the air at the same time at the similar altitude and if it was a case of a missile defense system why was it that those other planes were not shut down he's also said that the all of these accusations of a missile are false rumors and he also said that the rumors that iran will not share or is not sharing the black box information the flight recorder with the united states is untrue he said that we're happy to share this information in the earring in the inquiry that the pharmacy spokesperson has also spoken and again very defensive statements he's accused western media of suspicious propaganda and he's invited canada and any other countries with information to share it with the inquiry and as said i want to domestically what is the view in iran of what my ex happened where is public opinion. we

around civil aviation organization announced the pilots never radios for help yet were trying to turn back to the witnesses say the ukrainian government says a missile strike or terrorism could have brought the plane down. one member of congress says the u.s. does not have intelligence indicating that the jet was shot down. >>> governor newsome is sending four search and rescue team members. three hours later, a 6.0 aftershock damaged one of the country's main power plants. thousands are now sleeping outside fearing more powerful aftershocks. >>> communities in ukraine and canada anwas headed kiev and then to tront to. 50 passengers were canadians. a group of people gathered outside the legislature in ed monoton last night. mourners held hands and praywan hearts go out to all the family, to everyonee who have beenpassengers were iranians going to school or working in canada. they were returning after visiting their families during the winter break. >>> ukraine international airlines honoring its fallen crew. the memorial includes photos of all nine crew members. the three pilots had c

from the authorities less than 24 hours before saturday's admission the head of iran civil aviation organization spoke to al jazeera. was uscis it is very obvious that it was not hit by a missile if a missile hit it it should have crashed in its original direction. and this is what's causing more anger among iranians the fact that it took officials more than 48 hours after repeated denials to reveal what really happened. there was also criticism when the preform the wreckage was moved from the crash site possibly tainting evidence. the announcement comes a day after iran gave a ukrainian team access to the plane's black boxes the. evidence that could be crucial for putting together a timeline a group of international aviation experts is now part of the reigning investigation but this case could complicate further a region that's already in crisis the head of or also to sherry has asked for all the evidence to be handed over to be investigated and the man in charge of iran's revolutionary guard will be briefing m.p.'s in a closed door session in parliament but what is not clear is how this will i

the rest are just claims, even the head of the aviation organization had no information. >> reporter: ukraine is demanding an investigation into iran's denials and asking for compensation for the lost planes. they agreed to share resources and information as the investigation continues but the president of the ukraine claimed that investigators in iran were key in leading the cause to a missile strike. >> they are skills and speed and evidence discovered did not allow the truth to be hidden. >> reporter: over the weekend president donald trump tweeted his support for the protestors in iran saying that america and the world is watching. >>> house speaker nancy pelosi is expected to deliver articles of impeachment in the united states senate this week, meaning that the impeachment trial of president donald trump could begin but its not clear what that trial could look like. >> reporter: after a month of delay, nancy pelosi said she's preparing to send articles of impeachment to the senate this week. house democrats will have a private meeting to decide when. when the articles are delive

the associated press reports an investigation from civil aviation organization is at the site of the crash on the southwestern outskirts of tehran. the faa said it's closely monitoring events and has issued notices prohibiting operators from flying in the air space above iran and iraq. >>> we're dpoing to show you how two defense secretaries are responding to the escalating tensions with iran. >>> plus a a tough ex-change between secretary of state mike pompeo and andrea mitchell. how he reacted when a question about the threat s s to attack cultural sites in iran. and a check on your weather, when we come back. eck on your w, when we come back. (janine) ghostbusters!... of course i'd love to take an informal poll. i used to be a little cranky. dealing with our finances really haunted me. thankfully, i got quickbooks, and a live bookkeeper's helping customize it for our business. (live bookkeeper) you're all set up! (janine) great! hey! you got the burnt marshmallow out! (delivery man) he slimed me. (janine) tissue? (vo) get set up right with a live bookkeeper with intuit quickbooks.

that was the investigative committee of the iranian civil aviation organization. this time it is actually, don, the iranian military itself coming out and saying yes, they were the ones that shot this plane down, they say it was human error, they say it was because of those heightened tensions between the u.s. and iran after the iranians targeted those bases with the u.s. troops on it. they say they'll launch an investigation of their own as to how this could happen, who was behind it. and finally, don, i'm just paraphrasing the statement because i just read it myself, they are saying that they are going to put in place measures to ensure that something like this does not ever happen again. it does seem as though there is a full admission after last night, of course we know that secretary of state mike pompeo came out and said that the u.s. officially now does believe that it's likely that the plane was shot down by a surface to air missile after the canadians said exactly the same thing. now the iranians themselves now also coming out and admitting that they did

it's called is international civil aviation organization annex 13. it's been in force for decades.play by those rules. and it allows people to play in the investigation like boeing or ntsb or faa. i think there might be an issue with iran being a sanctioned country where there's actual laws in our country that will make it difficult for us to exchange technical information. and hopefully, you know, things can be worked out, waivers can be written for that. but something like this, it's very tough in the aviation safety world to keep under wraps and to keep a secret. and i think that we will get to the bottom of it eventually. i don't know the mechanism by which that's going to happen, but i think we will know. >> jeff go zetty, air safety investigator and engineering specialist at the ntsb for 18 years before becoming accident investigation chief at the faa. sir, thank you very much for your time tonight. >> thank you. >> more news to get to tonight. stay with us. best. taking metamucil every day can help. its psyllium fiber forms a gel that traps and removes the waste that weighs

>> well, we have a lot of discussions after this with the united nations branch of the aviation organization. and they said they were going to put out a website where people would share this information with the flying public. to date, i'm not aware of how to access that, where to get it. but at the point, with this particular incident, why was it not? the u.s. restricted all u.s. air carriers from flying over those areas but the responsibility and the acceptance of that risk lies with the air carrier itself. and so that decision was made by the ukrainian airline. >> so iran now seems to be playing something of a double game. on the one hand publicly calling it a lie that an iranian missile took this down, despite the evidence, but on the other hand, notable they've invited the ntsb in and ukrainian and swedish investigators. a lot of swedish nationals on the flight. and boeing as well. that would seem to indicate, you'll have an international investigation here. makes it much harder, virtually um possible for iran to deny the evidence, if it's confirmed on the ground. >> yeah, it's irrespon

the head of iran's civil aviation organization announced they will not give the plane's black box to boeing. cheryl: also happening overnight, in iran, a 4.9 magnitude earthquake strikes near nuclear power plant on the western part of the country, near the persian gulf. you can he see here. so far, there is no word on damage to the plant or deaths related to the quake in iran. this is believed to be a natural event. lauren: iran firing missiles at american troops in iraq overnight, causing mounting concerns of home-grown attacks right here at home in the u.s. cheryl: maybe cyber attacks. the faa is keeping a close eye on the skies above us. had they have now banned all u.s. flights in parts of the middle east, these planes cannot fly over the regions of iraq, iran and other gulf states. lauren: let's go to jackie ivanyez with more on the potential threats we could be facing. >> reporter: texas' governor is warning of iran's cyber attacks. they have tried attacking more than 6 mill i don' 6 i don't 6 . they are looking to delete and block all malicious activity on government servers.

the head of the civil aviation organization called them illogical rumors.is what he said.ai theyother civilian airliners were in the air at the same time and the plane didn't go down immediately but it was hit or some kif chanical failure, that is what iran is saying, and tried to rn back to the airport. iran said it was willing t work with ukrainian authorities but this is crucial, iran said it is not willing to han over the black boxes to u.s. officials. judy: help us understand why those black boxes matter in understanding how this could of happened. >> the objecve data in the black boxes would be able to settle that dispute. the iranians say it was impossible for them to shoot it down. that is patently not true. the aircraft was 4000 feet above the ground, well within range of surfacil to air mi. that is wrong on the black boxes will settle it because there may be cockpit voice recordings that could be ccial and it is important those boxes end u oin some kinective hands so the world can make an assessment. judy: the question of no-fly zones, for both of

the rest are just claims, even ahead of the aviation organization there's no information. maki crane demanding an internal investigation into iran's denials and asking for compensation for his lost plane. -- spoke with his iranian counterpart in both agree to share resources and information as the investigation continues. zelinski also claimed ukrainian investigators in tehran working in identifying the crash as a missile strike, which ultimately led to the admission by iran. >> a high professional skills and speed convincing preliminary evidence in tehran did not allow the truth to be hidden. >> reporter: over the weekend, president trump tweeted his support for the protesters in iran saying that america and the world is watching. in kyiv, ukraine. >>> new at noon, governor kassem -- to meet with homeless people and the organizations working to help them. a few minutes ago, he was in a homeless outreach program following the release of a governor state budget proposal, which includes more than $1 billion in homeless response funding. >> homelessness is the issue, number o

we were actually able to get in touch with the head of the iranian civil aviation organization. i have to add, this was before this news broke, and we specifically asked him about what's going to happen with the black boxes. now, he says that ukranian officials have arrived here in iran. they're working with them, apparently. he said he said the iranians have one of these black boxes and one of the black boxes are damaged and may have been lost. he also claimed the ukranian investigators are going to be able to download the information from those black boxes tomorrow, he put it, and he says that anything on those black boxes would then be available to the world, as he said. now, again, i have to add this conversation we had with him came before the news broke, so we have to get back in touch with him. there are several news outlets and officials that have dismissed the theory that the plane was shot down by an iranian missile, saying it was a distraction and that was not the case. another official saying there was no debris of a missile found at the crash site. unclear whether o

. >> or unfamiliarity with how an annexed 13 international civil aviation organization investigationworks. and that is, you deliver the black boxes securely and safely to a black box lab that is capable of downloading and really identifying and working with the data. they don't routinely just give them back to the manufacturers. they get them to the lab. now, the best labs are, of course, in u.s., canada, france, britain, australia, and others. so if i was certainly leading the investigation, i would want to call in one of the these black box lab experts. if i wasn't going to use the ntsb, but, according to the annex 13iko guidelines, it would be irregular. you know, certainly, they could call in canada. they have a great investigation bureau. and there were so many canadians onboard. that would make sense. >> that would. mary, appreciate it, thanks. more to learn, obviously. >> thank you. >>> coming up, house speaker nancy pelosi is still holding on to the two articles of impeachment passed in mid-december. ahead, the state of play tonight on their transmission to the senate. oh, yo

assistants, you know, under the treaty or under annex 13 of iko's, the international civil aviation organizationt the fact of the matter is that we've seen this in the past. we've had accident sites where wreckage has been pilfered, bodies have been pilfered, and in this particular instance there was no security. i saw one report where there was a reporter standing in the middle of the debris field. that would never happen here in the united states or elsewhere, so that's a real issue, especially if you're trying to have a transparent investigation, and now all the wreckage has disappeared, how are you going to do that? >> well, what about the black boxes? because iran says their time frame is that it will take two months to extract data from the black boxes. does that sound right to you? >> well, it does, but, again, you have to take that with some, you know, caution. if they're trying to read those boxes out, and they don't have the real technology necessary to read those boxes out, they could actually destroy the data. now the question is they've gotten rid of the wreckage. if they destroy th

intelligence officials, the head of the civil aviation organization called them illogical rumors.y have been prviding details. they said other civilian airliners were in the air at the same time and that the plane didn't go down middle east, that it was hit, some kind of mechanical failure, aied to go back to the airport. iran said it was willing t work with the ukrainian authorities but is not willing to hand overe black to u.s. officials. >> woodruff: that raises the question, miles. help us understand why the blacn boxes matternderstanding how something like this could have happened. >> well, the objective dta in those black boxes would be able to settle that alleged dispute here. the iranians are saying it was impossible for them to shoot it down. that's patently not true. this aircraft was 4, feet above the ground, 7,000 feet above sea level, well within range of surface-to-air missiles. that's wrong on the face of it. the black boxes will settle itca e thet data in there will be able to explain it. there might be cockpit voice recordings that might be crual and that's whytt'