he's not somebody who christopher dean necessarily dent with himself, there is client confidentiality mccann himself but in essence, what happened with the scheme, it was devised in 2010 by christopher dean and his colleagues inside the ministry ofjustice as a means of trying to get a terrorism offenders to sit down and consider their identity as a whole. think about a burglar, they could have committed a crime because of some particular needs such as poverty or desperation from drug abuse. the terrorism offender, you're often talking about someone who is following an ideological cause. so the idea this scheme is effectively to get them to think about why they follow that course, what is it that made them identify with the extremist group and create this avenue through which they can perhaps start to disengage to use the jargon, with an extremist group, be it the islamic state group orafar right group, be it the islamic state group or a far right group or even an animal rights extremist small group as well. what christopher dean told me in this interview which you can hear on bbc soun

we have spoken to christopher dean who devised this because in the ministry ofjustice and he said thating, which is talked about in the media often, is simply wrong, because you cannot wipe simply‘s mind. this is particularly important because of what happened 21, the man behind the fishmonger is whole attack last november. —— what happened with usman khan. something clearly went wrong with him and it is complex work, he had been through the scheme. what is the evidence of the scheme. what is the evidence of the success of the scheme? we don't really know, when they built it a deck and go, they said they pulled on the best independent evidence that it would work, pilots went well. but you have got such a small group of terrorist offenders within jails in the uk, only a few hundred at any one time, it's very difficult to track what happens to them and if any intervention works. in the case of usman khan, he went through this scheme and went into a follow—up scheme and went into a follow—up scheme following his release from prison into the community, which we understand works similarly.

dean: top number one film of 2020 to go see it is? >> a movie called tenant. watch this. >> i have watched that trailer 15 times at home. this is christopher nolan. this director. this director is one of the few filmmakers who truly really cares about that immersive audience experience. my favorite film of the decade dunkirk and interstellar where is he truly understanding that audiences are smart. he wants to challenge them and tenet we don't know a ton about it. we know washington is in it. international espionage and minutes time. that's my number one. i will probably see it 10 times in theaters. pete: we don't know the plot. dean: don't give it out. rachel: love the director. >> i love the director. yeah. pete: kevin mccarthy thank you very much. >> thank you guys. happy new year. love to you all. rachel: a guy who loves movies as much as i do. dean: he loves them more than i do. never to be confused from kevin mccarthy the rep from california. pete: next on the rundown, a boat slams into a jetty and lands like this. so what happened next? well, we will tell you. dean: and a nanny for an 18-year-old? the parents who say their college kid need

christopher watson took off after invading someone 's home in marion county and facing burglary charges. sending it back to you. >> steve: there is the mugshot thank you very much. >> brian: janice deanod morning, brenda and freddie from arkansas. >> how many years? >> 53. >> what's the secret? >> you got to decide one thing, be right or be happy? >> oh, i love it let's take a look at the maps real quick. thank you for spending your anniversary with us. it's cold across the northeast, we still have the potential over parts of up state new york and new england and then we have another little weather maker that's going to move in tomorrow afternoon, for the rush hour parts of d.c. up towards new england, so that's the storm we're going to have to watch over the next 24 hours. my friends thank you for coming out i'm so proud of you, proud to see you this morning. back inside, steve, ainsley and brian. >> good looking crowd. thanks, jd. ainsley: well american firefighters are now in the ground in australia and we are joined live with the latest coming up next. >> steve: first let's check in with bill hemmer. >> happy new year to you all i haven't had a chance to see you yet, good morning