david, is this enough? speak of the president, as you know has a long history of distancing himself from people he knew. he said he didn't know michael cullen, he said he didn't know all the people before, the steve bannon, et cetera, et cetera. i wouldn't really take his comments at face value, i do however, know these allegations are out there in the president should address them. it's why i think from the beginning, if there's nothing to hide you should cooperate fully with the inquiry, he should go out there, he should be willing to testify. >> harris: you're not bothered by the timing? does these are the 11th hour, it's like the 13th hour. >> it's a free country. people are allowed to say whatever they want. i'm sure rachel maddow was very happy to get that interview on her own. it is a newsworthy interview as you know, and your business. the only reason to be worried about the timing is the truth of the allegations. >> harris: jason? >> i'm concerned not only with the timing but the credibility. this is a guide that is out on bail on a multi-count federal indictment, he r a company called fraud inc., this guy has no credibility, they