>> yes, i did. >> sergei schaffer is a very senior aid to president zelensky. >> correct. >> it has been reported as far as we understand from public reporting that you conveyed to mr. schaffer the exact quid pro quo, that you wanted zelensky to announce investigations into joe biden or military aid would not be released to ukraine. is that accurate? >> it was a little bit more than that. basically the message that i was supposed to -- that i gave sergei schaffer was a very harsh message that was told to me to give it to him in a very harsh way, not in a pleasant way. >> who told to you give it to him in a harsh way? >> mayor giuliani, rudy, told me after meeting with the president at the house. it wasn't just military aid. it was all aid. basically their relationships would be sour, that we would stop giving them any kind of aid. >> unless? >> unless there was an announcement made. the conversation -- i told him that if he doesn't -- the announcement was the key at that time because of the inauguration, that pence would not show up, nobody would show up to his inauguration. >> unless he