study across multiple many countries around the world including a number in europe in the us canada australia a lot of different places tracking polarization over time and what they found is that polarization is not trending consistently in every place so in places like the us it is growing quickly in a number of other countries it's growing and many places that is flat are consistent over the last 20 years and in some places it's even down but the internet and social media are pretty much everywhere so if that were the dominant force that were causing polarization then you would not expect to see different trajectories of polarization and all these different places which again does not mean the polarization that we don't have work to do to make sure that we're we're a very positive force on this but at least should cause some people to question the what i think has become a very popular narrative that this is primarily because of the internet and social media from a lot of the research that's being done it's not clear that that's true but we also have work we don't want to make it so we're j

we also know canada, australia, the u.k., israel and hong kong are looking to heir people off the ships well. meanwhile, thousands ofeople remain stuck onboard and evidently that's affectingff people in ent ways. here are some of the kitchen staff making a successful attempt to distract themselves and to go viral. that video's been posted online. this also -- let's also talk about japan. it imposed a 14-day quarantine period on thisnhip. that's babeled an unprecedented failure by one expert. either way, thatlan comes to an end on wednesday. here'sn what exactly that means for the passengers. reporter: quarantine will ficially end on the 2,000 or more passengers still onboard who have tested negative will be ship. d to sta leavinghe they can walk out of this gate, hail a cab, get on a bus. butnshat haphen is much less clear. the british government says it is sending a plane uo pickp the british passengers. whether they may face further quarantine when they get back to britn. ros: from japan to africa because we have our first case of the coronavirus there. thisas detailed on frida p thi

meanwhile we know countries like canada, australia and italy are following the lead of the united states. we know those countries are following the lead and doing the same thing over the coming days, and it just leads to the point that some of these countries do not trust the fact that japan's quarantine process onboard that ship worked because when these countries bring their citizens back home, they're going to have to undergo further quarantine just like what's happening in the united states. speaking of quarantine, aittle bit of good news. some of the first groups of americans evacuated out of wuhan, the city where this all started, the coronavirus outbreak center, some of them set to be released from quarantine in the u.s. today, others released on thursday. that is the kind of thing all the people onboard this ship here in tokyo, in yokohama harbor are looking forward to. >> and the coronavirus has now killed almost 1,900 people and there are more than 73,000 cases confirmed wurl wide, most in mainland china where there are 780 million remain on some sort of lock down. and a hospit

comments a get a strengthening of the anglo-saxon the well by which i mean britain america canada new zealand and australia 5. i asked frets so that wells and within a few hours of reaching out and left the european union paper canada had propose a model of political union involving canada britain australia and new zealand so i believe that the anglo-saxon vote which in the last quarter of a century at least as being the sponsible for so much carnage and destruction around the world could actually be strengthened as a result of threats it's it's very interesting that i haven't that's i haven't heard that that is very new but you know you have to even before you have a new relationship you have that and the past one and unraveling the of from the relationship of the e.u. is it's going to take a lot of time 11 months isn't that much time big trade agreements usually take years so we're going to have to get you know can condense this down right here the issue is also in foreign policy and i'm glad marcus brought that up is that. the. u.k. is has usually gone along with a lot of the european countries the cont

systems but from what i've read they haven't really worked no it's not don't like that so well canada or australia are the 2 big points systems immigration uses so far that we've been looking at and they've both actually over the years changed them significantly they i mean at least they replaced what were originally blatantly racist rules so i mean is that they replace them with rules that people's language skills people's work skills people's age and education levels all of that sounds very good but they were supply driven rather than demand driven kind of kind of socialist really. they didn't base it on what it was that businesses and employers wanted in their workers and a study found in 2013 in australia more than 13 percent of the microsoft got in on points based reasons were actually unemployed having been in that year so within a year 13 percent had no longer had jobs whereas those people who had gone in on invitations from employers for specific jobs only one percent of them had lost their jobs we also forget that it's a lot of these migrant families that come through bigger economy is li

it points to canada and talks about australia but i think what will come out of this is something that to reserve the right to set its own rules and go out and strike its own trade deals but at the same time, it needs to have a certain amount of integration with the eu because this is about more than just trade. it is about security and citizens being able to travel between the eu and the uk. it is about data sharing. there are an enormous amount of topics that will have to be covered by the deal so it is notjust about moving car parts between one country and another. use and very calm but we have had some quite dramatic language from some parts of the political spectrum. i saw ed davey, the acting lib deb nido, talking about a scorched earth policy by borisjohnson when he talked about an australian model. —— lib dems leader. do you think that kind of languages over colourful? we are at the start of negotiations at both sides will be setting out their battle lines for the talks ahead. they will last at least 11 months so there is a lot to be discussed. often, i think the government's p

agreement within the wto which is only among some members of developingughly countries, eu, japan, canada, australiau.s., which opens on a reciprocity basis public procurement. i opened my public procurement market in a certain harsh and, market in a your certain proportion. we have to make sure the proportion is right. this was what was done between the u.s. and other countries. the country that pulls out from losesublic procurement access to the public procurement market of the other members of this club. club,e a member of this you have to open for public procurement, and you benefit from the opening of others. you leave the club, you lose the market access you negotiated. david: thank you some of two pascal lamy. we will have more with him coming up in our second hour of bloomberg markets radio. president trump is still speaking at the white house, covering a wide range of subjects, it's fair to say. you can catch those remarks on the bloomberg. note, tuesday,ng live coverage of the new hampshire primary. that will be starting at 7:00 p.m. eastern time. we will continue to monitor president trum

we pay more than people in canada, australia, the u.k. why do you think that is?f our gdp. that's because in our country we are paying to treat disease and not promote wellness. i'm running for the u.s. senate in tennessee. i run this nonprofit called healthy tennessee. over 10 years, we have been trying to get people to get on the front end of health. meaning why wait and spend $10 on the back end to treat diabetes when we could get on the front end and spend a dollar to promoted case. that's what we need to do all across the country. that's why we spend so much. i agree with what you're saying, the city. traceethe study. tracee: thank you very much for joining us this morning. we appreciate it. >> thank you, tracee. lauren: let's take a look at a relief rally on wall street. china sold off big overnight, dow up 105 right here in the u.s. s&p up 14, nasdaq up 42. big jobs report, first one of the year comes down on friday. as election season starts, we're taking a look at the state that starts it all, what drives iowa voters to caucus the way they do. tracee: tru

suddenly, canada and australia are the models coming into conversation. i thought the u.k.at this was not some big they would pursue? jordan: definitely australia because australia doesn't have a trade deal, so essentially it is funding a country that is popular with the public with nice weather and saying, that sounds nice. a lot of the reporters at that press conference were trying to point that out in the q&a, and boris johnson was trying to avoid that scrutiny and not answer the question. if you hear australia deal, it means no deal because australia has no trade deal the eu on that level. when it comes to canada, they do. the key difference is that the eu and canada don't have as many level playing field requirements that the e.u. has put out today. if you look at their negotiation mandate, the points they have released a mother's 14 mentions of level playing field when it comes to competition, -- have , there's 14 mentions a level playing field when it comes to competition. what the eu might be asking for is a bit much for the u.k. at this stage, which is he simply in

we know that canada, australia, the uk, israel and hong kong are looking to get their people off theds remain stuck on board. evidently that's affecting people in different ways. here are some of the kitchen staff making a successful attempt to go viral. a british couple who've been sharing regular updates from the ship on their facebook page posted this today. "there is going to be a time of quiet. "we have been proved positive and are leaving "for hospital soon. "blessings all!" sally and david abel are among 7a britons on the diamond princess. their son has been speaking to the bbc. i got an e—mailfrom my dad, saying, "your mum and i "have tested positive. "we are going to..." the words were, he is going to a hospital. i facetimed them straightaway. i haven't actually spoken or seen... spoken to or seen my dad, only got through to my mum, but i heard my dad in the background not sounding too great. japan imposed a fourteen day quarantine period on the ship. that's been labelled an unprecedented failure by one expert. either way, it comes to an end on wednesday. here's rupert wingf

the fact that 3 quarters of migrants go to to just 4 countries united states great britain canada and australia because the english they can countries they have an excellent. school and university system and so you have to be attractive for migrants in the future to to to to have a state in the in the global competition i mean germany rings in attractiveness and rank 12th and the 3rd to. countries which are developed this is not enough so germans have to have to have to recognise the fact there's not just the question of being tolerant open and welcoming but then this sesa t. of having more immigrants this is something that's very interesting because the image of germany is very positive by a lot of countries and this ranking is very interesting there's a gap between this i think and the you much and i think that has to do is that something which of the germans is that they have difficulties to accept that some balance and if you want to have yes and basically i want to separate that topic the migration with the ones who are rising 2015 i mean let's look at how are they doing this case there's

i think that one that is more restrictive than what canada and australia have.ut it is a policy that is -- has both supporters and detractors because of the way in which critics say it would siphon off the most educated and skilled immigrants from their home countries, that we're simply looking at immigrants as a economn economin an economic function rather than more broad-based system that would allow people who have very few skills to come and take advantage of what we have offered to so many of our ancestors who came with very little and were able to make something for themselves and their children and grandchildren. so it's a yes and a no kind of answer. >> hi. i disagree with you. i think this book was extremely helpful because you told up a mirror to the truth and unless we're willing to look at the hard truth, we're never going to be able to get anywhere. my question is this, one of the things that really offended me along the way over the -- which was horrible, but-- the birther rumor and obama said, oh, no, no, i'm not muslim. i find that offensive beca

relationship that we've had with five countries, all of us, you know, the u.k., new zealand, canada, australiahat signify if this is a five eyes product. and there was no such document. and look, i would think for something as important as investigating a political campaign, counter-intelligence investigation, if you're going to use the term five eyes, there damn better be some type of intelligence behind that. but there wasn't. because it's what, what we call the intelligence business, it is call called rumen. rumor intelligence. >> and think about this, in a crowd, that you can grab what the congressman just said, multiple outlets, media outlets that lean left, you know, and not bogino.com or nunes.com, like cnn and elsewhere, i think it is obvious leaning left, right, have already reported on an intelligence channel set up between the united kingdom and the obama administration, of passing, this is not a conspiracy, you can google the article today. jim sciutto and pamela brown wrote it in april i believe of 2016. it says u.k. intelligence. past information on trump and the obama administra

but also germany, canada, australia, japan. let's leverage all of that and think strategically about the advantages so that we can have a way of engaging china effectively. >> i just got a two-minute warning. i want to ask david was a major part of the liberation and has written a paper that you have in front of you, you understand china and used to be that the chinese. how do you react to the presentation at what is the ande probability for both of you if the united states either ends up taking part and what is the probability on the other side of china outpaces itself? >> thank you. you kind of put me on the spot. i don't disagree with anything just said. my own contribution i would add one other dimension. it's not an elusive concept or dirty word we need to embrace it if across multiple domains and several of those are in the security sphere. the other thing i would like to add is to my mind one domain that is going to be crucial is the information domain by which i don't been cyber combining google public diplomacy and he

comparable to canada's all more like australia and i have no doubt that in either case the u.k. will prosper mightily and of course. new relationship with his neighbors can range far beyond trade or insley is covering this for us from london he says both sides are presenting demands they know the other side is on likely to meet. the problem is really you know you've got to go to european sites the wants things to be exactly the same as they have been but knows that that's exactly the opposite of what the british want and the brits want things to be completely different to how they have been but also know that europe's still the main markets and so they put out these you know initial positions knowing perfectly well that they're going to have to change it's like you know if you're my boss and i want to 3 percent pay rise from you i'm going to demand that you give me nothing less than 10 percent in me you know and it doesn't mean anything yet because of it you got months and months of this to go on michel barnier for the europeans said we want access to british fishing waters you

we're seeing similar policies out of the u.s., canada, australia, and here in hong kong as well. have, as we do, get the latest numbers of the coronavirus out of china today. the rate of infection seems to be stabilizing. what's the significance of the latest report? tom: absolutely, it is significant, it's the second day where we've seen the rate of additional infections slow, as you say that underscores the kind of commentary we have heard from medical experts here who have said they may now start to see a peak in this disease by the mid or end of january, february, potentially. the usual caveats around that. we do have the world health organization experts on the ground here still assessing data and patients. in terms of total global infection rate, you're talking about 75,000. so a huge number of course and the death rate unfortunately has raisin to about 2,000. but it is that trend of seeing to give some optimism for policymakers and experts. we have heard from the world health organization saying the quarantine measures put in place did help give a window of maybe two three

world so does the racism accompanying it from across the globe in countries as far apart as australia and canada and others in between such as malaysia and indonesia people of chinese origin have reported facing discrimination and verbal attacks all out of fear that because of the chinese headed to jail they could spread the virus. such as this australian doctor who claimed a patient made jokes about not shaking her hand because of fear over the coronavirus she ended her tweet with this is racism in hong kong a japanese doodle shop posted this sign outside which essentially means we don't accept people from mainland we want to live a little longer here in germany some people are outraged over this cover the magazine a day spiegel came up with on the coronavirus story a journalist reacted to it saying it was disappointing that in 2020 this magazine can still come up with such a cover up for treating racial stereotypes here's more on what people are having to face the following views from the streets of paris. for the city and if we have a committee i was choosing fruit touching it with my hands a

starting to hear stories and concerns about rising zen phobia, including, for example, the u.s., canada and australiapaper headline considered racist by many here, including the government, has got the "wall street journal" into big trouble. the journal, on february 3, published an opinion piece critical of the chinese government's response to the outbreak. but they chose a phrase with historical implications. china is the real sickman of asia. they're kicking out three beijing-based journal report who have nothing to do with this article. they're given five days to leave china. making this the first group expulsion of reporters in over three decades. frfrls >>> and breaking overnight, the sespected gunman dead after two shootings in hookah lounges east of frankfort. they tell our affiliate the attacker left a confession letter and a video. there are indications he had a far-right motive. now terror prosecutors are taking over. the bodies of a second shooter were found near the crime scene. >>> and according to a new study published in the medical journal, the increased risk was found in women prescr

comparable to canada's or more like australia is what this means is that no deal is once again on the table because what johnson did not say was that the e.u. has no trade agreement worked out with us trillion the moment michelle banias take on london's approach was decidedly less rosy. that's why the e.u. commission will also prepare the situation in which we end with no deal with. this is not what we want but we must get ready for the possibility of facing an abyss at the end of this year for you half a confederacy hung the lead up to the joint talks between london and brussels could hardly have been frosty or. well earlier i spoke to barry good masseur correspond to modern about the u.k.'s position in the post briggs's negotiations the start of this monday well boris johnson wants to be seen as somebody who is fright fighting for the rights of the u.k. for the independence they want to make the most of bricks and they arguing what's the point of bragg's if we don't divert from e.u. rules so he has some very symbolic industries for example fisheries where he just wants to be seen as

the united states government continues to work with the united kingdom, australia, canada, new zealandn consultation with industry on a set voluntary principle. we have a set of voluntary principles to tackle online child sexual exploitation and abuse and the level of detail, the kind of things they are putting in, nobody has seen anything like this before. people working on it do it with heart and love and want something to happen. they don't want to be wasting time like people have been waiting for many years even people in this position, have been wasting time and not a lot of money. they haven't been spending a lot of money. we are now spending a lot of money. we look forward to launching these principles in the coming months. we will not rest until we have stopped every last human traffickers liberated every last survivor. [applause] >> i'm pleased to introduce an incredible survivor in the newest member of the advisory council on human trafficking, bella. [applause] >> good afternoon. thank you for organizing this important event. it is an honor to be here to celebrate the twenti

. >> king george's empire extends from canada to australia, covering a fifth of the world's populationlion of george's subjects from across the empire fought in world war i. and hundreds of thousands lost their lives. many now question their sacrifice. >> there is lots of discontent and rebellion in different parts of the empire. >> there are nationalist uprisings and a lot of violence in egypt, ireland and india. >> king george realizes that his son edward's wartime popularity is something that he can use to shore up the loyalty of the british empire. >> in fall of 1919 edward is sent off on his first major overseas tour to canada. >> edward embarks on these tours as an ambassador on behalf of his father to broker good relationships between britain and the representative figures he meets in these different countries. >> the program that's been set for him is a very old-fashioned, formal one with carriage rides and formal lunches and receptions. >> edward is the very antithesis of his parents, king george and queen mary, who were enormously correct and very, very stuffy. >> the first t

all of that is built in germany canada australia japan. let's actually leverage all of that and think strategically of those advances to engage china effectively. >> thank you very much. i got the two-minute warning. we'll make it a three minute warning. i want to ask professor shambaugh who was a major part of the deliberations, you understand china when you study the chinese how do you react to her presentation and what is the probability for both of you? >> united states either keeps par or maintains predominance that china outpaces us. >> you put me on the spot. >> you can handle it. >> i don't disagree with anything kat has said my own contribution to the volume you can read yourself but i would just add one other dimension i argue in my chapter the constitution is not a dirty word we have to embrace it and get on with that it is comprehensive across many domains she has spoken about those in the security sphere the only thing i would like to add is that in my mind one domain that will be crucial is the information domain i don't mean

border and trump is the only candidate that is talking about a marriage based system like canada has, like australia has and the united kingdom has. right now we have a broken system that has green card lottery where people have to go and pray. they go to all these international countries and they have to go pay people to do thisapplication, they don't know what country they're even applying for . it's a scam. >> host: on immigration, it's come up as an issue on the democrats side. >> guest: huge issue, all the democrats do have a merit-based system included in their plans, at least the major candidates and this is a thing they discussed a lot. immigration, even in new hampshire where there isn't a ton of immigration, it's one of the lease diapers eighth but it's an issue that people find important and democrats are supportive of a merit-based system at least from what i'm hearing in the town hall and i would say in terms of issues number three, four, five something that people absolutely care about a couple of questions on text, that number is 8003, jane from cape cod says went to the trump rally,

this is one reason why australia, canada, and now britain are now insisting their nationals must go throughn they return home. rupert wingfield—hayes, bbc news, yokohama. a lawyer forjulian assange says president trump made an offer to pardon the wikilea ks founder if he said russia was not involved in leaking emails from america's democratic national committee during the 2016 election. the bbc‘s rich preston has this report. the e—mails were released by wikileaks injune and the e—mails were released by wikileaks in june and july 2016, just months before the us presidential elections. they we re presidential elections. they were hugely embarrassing and seen as were hugely embarrassing and seen as massively damaging to the democratic presidential nominee, hillary clinton. russell was widely suspected of hacking the dnc, stealing their e—mails, and passing them on to wikileaks. julian assange e—mails, and passing them on to wikilea ks. julian assange has denied rotten involvement and russia denies any responsibility —— rotten. that did not stop the usjostens department judging did not stop th

this group of mps dubbed the wolverines because britain is a part of the security alliance with australia, canadaecurity lights for the whole of the western world but i fear the intervention, this letter, is actually too little too late. huawei are embedded in the mobile and fixed networks of this country and the prime minister was my decision, the government was my decision to allow them access to 235% of the five g network is really very pragmatic solution. allow them access to 35%. well i haven't done anything by stealth, they have been in this country for over 15 years operating in the telecoms network so ifear it might operating in the telecoms network so i fear it might be too late. there is the allegation they are addresses, aggressors, cyber warfare, it is not the first time we have had this. a lot of this comes down to the ownership of the company. who actually owns huawei? they call themselves a private company that is owned by the shareholders but there is no doubt that huawei is one of many chinese enterprises that are at the forefront of chinese economic expansion and its stated nati

this is one reason why australia, canada and now britain are now insisting their nationals must go throughia is on the verge of a dangerous escalation, according to a senior un official, who warned that the cost to civilians could be "instant and huge." he made his comments as turkey threatened to launch a new military offensive. talks between turkey and russia, which backs the syrian government, failed to reach agreement on how to calm fighting in idlib, the last mainly rebel—held region in syria. more than 400 people are reported to have been killed in a major offensive by syrian government forces in idlib which began in december. nearly a million people — mostly women and children — have fled the onslaught, and some are now dying from the cold. it‘s the biggest movement of displaced people in syria‘s 9—year conflict. this report from our international correspondent, orla guerin in istanbul contains distressing images. explosion ducking for cover... even if you can barely stand, it‘s time to run. with bombs falling nearby, the abdulaziz family are trying to pack up and go for the fourth

this is one reason why australia, canada, britain are now insisting their nationals must go through anotherarantine when they return home. rupert wingfield—hayes, bbc news, yokohama. matthew smith is an american passenger still on board the ship. he hasn't been allowed to leave because he is waiting to find out if he is clear of the virus. it explains how he is feeling after spending so long in quarantine. well, as you can imagine, it is wearying to have been confined to a small space, basically a bedroom and a living area. we've taken... it's been easierfor us because we know we have it much better than passengers in smaller caverns, than passengers in smaller caverns, particularly the interior caverns with no access to son orfresh interior caverns with no access to son or fresh air interior caverns with no access to son orfresh air —— cabins. we have a balcony so we have both of those things. even in the largest cabins on the ship, two weeks in that space is mentally wearying. mentally wearing you say. the diamond princess being described as something of a ghost ship, because so few passe

this is one reason why australia, canada, and now britain are now insisting their nationals must go through4 days' quarantine when they return home. rupert wingfield—hayes, bbc news, yokohama. let's have some breaking news now. eight breaking news now. people have been killed eight people have been killed in separate shooting incidents in the german town of hanau. it is 25 kilometres east of frankfurt. our correspondent joins us online now from berlin. according to german media, shots were first fired in a shisha are in town and that is where it seems the first people we re where it seems the first people were killed. after that eyewitnesses say that one or more gunmen escape the scene in a dark vehicle and drove to another shisha bar in another pa rt another shisha bar in another part of town where gunmen started shooting people inside. as you say police have now confirmed that eight people in total have been killed in both shooting incidents. it is thought that more people could possibly be injured. the initial reports from police have five people being injured but it is unclear if they a

other countries, for instance the united states, canada, the uk, australia, have decided that when thesesengers take a charter home, they will be subject to a further 14 days' quarantine. now, 88 people just further 14 days' quarantine. now, 88 peoplejust yesterday tested positive for the virus on the cruise ship, so it is raising serious concerns about possible contagion once these passengers leave. but they are being allowed to leave, they are being allowed to head home, if they are testing negative. the other over 540 passengers who have tested positive are being treated at nearby hospitals. thank you very much indeed for that. let's speak to our correspondent nick bea ke in hong kong. we will talk more generally about where the outbreak has reached in just a about where the outbreak has reached injust a moment, but in hong kong there, you have i think a second death from the coronavirus. you think a second death from the coronavirus. you are think a second death from the coronavirus. you are right, mike, this was confirmed this morning by hospital officials. they say a 70—year—old ma

er time he brings it up, the trump administration gets wailed on even though canada and australia haveve a job offer. why can other countries have it and not the u.s. >> we need a merit system for people to come into the united states. we need a process that allows people to come into the country that we can vet that are here for the right reasons. what i have heard is they want open borders. that's the bottom line. as long as they have the concept we want everybody to come to the united states, them never budge. liz: are you worried that if a democrat gets elected, everything the president has done gets unwound in the. >> if anybody had that mindset -- where is their oath of office. the number one priority of anyone elected is to protect american citizens. liz: thank you so much for your time and thank you for your service to our country. you are on the front lines keeping the country safe. thank you for watching. lou dobbs next on the fox business network. have a good weekend. lou: good evening, president trump holding a raucous rally in nevada. the president speaking for 1 hour 45 m

>> the question is wheth we agree a trade deal relationship with the eu cparable to canada's or more like australia'she financial times saying love the rebranding of a no trade deal brexit with the wto. just a reminder, says george, australia has no free-trade agreement with the eu and is 9000 miles away. with the stage set for difficult negotiations, businesses on both sides are faced with some uncertainty. thebcconomics editor -- >> the u.k. government is preparing for the expectation of a more distant relationship. it means accepting trade tariffs, taxes on trade. there is no deal between australia and the eat the moment. there has been some mixed bssages withiness. they've been told by some cabinet members, they should tell the government whether they want to bmembers of various european agencies. businesses have to prepare part the government wants businesses to unleash investment and they still don't know what the trade >> we started with the coronavirus and the latest with trade negotiations an now onto america. the first contest of the presidential election starts today. donald tmp looks unst

certainly in the us but also germany, canada,australia .let's leverage all of that and think strategically about the advantages that gains us so we can have a way of engaging china effectively. >> thank you. i just got the two-minute warning. we will make it a three minute warning. i want to ask professor shambaugh, david who was a major part of our deliberations and has written a paper for the book you all have in front of you.you understand china and you study the chinese. how do you react to kathy's presentation and what's the probability for both of you that the united states and up either keeping park or maintaining our predominance and what's the probability that on the other side that china outpaces us? >> you kind of put me on the spot but that's the way it is. well, i don't disagree with anything cass has just said. my own contribution to the volume you can all read for yourselves. i would add one other dimension, i would note competition i argue in my chapter is not an illicit concept or a dirty word. we need to embrace it. it's c