interviewed by "washington post" business reporter jonathan o'connell. with relevant guest hosts interviewing talking on fiction authors about their latest works, all "after words" programs are also available as podcasts. >> post color happy to be joined here by a andre andrea bernsteie cohost of the trump podcast, very important podcast, and the author of the new book, "american oligarch." very informative, andrea, one of the first things that struck me in reading the book is i feel like you were the first perfect person for this because you emerge yourself in the new jersey politics and business for the career, and now here we have not only trump, but so many who are running for president. there's cory booker, rudy giuliani among other things. why right now do you think there are so many folks that are at the upper levels of power in american politics? >> it is such an interesting question. for so many years, when i was covering a new york public pics, bob of course people like hillary clinton who obviously ran for president but the sense that somehow