jonathan: joining me around the table is subadra rajappa, kathy jones, and rob waldner. thy, typically when we start a week with sentiment like this, the next week things flip the other way and we are vulnerable to a squeeze. are we vulnerable now? kathy: it doesn't feel like it. the squeeze was people were not prepared for this. and anyone who was heavily in leveraged fixed assets has been squeezed out. so it doesn't feel like it because there's no magic wand here. this thing has to peak and come back down. that's likely to take time. jonathan: one person at the table feeling pretty good about life, it's subadra rajappa. started the year with a target on the ten-year at 1.20. everyone thought you were crazy. we're not far off of it now. subadra: this is very different from what we experienced in 2003 and when the stars pandemic was a scare because the size of the chinese economy is much larger, it's coming at a bad time going into the new year's celebrations, and it's now worldwide. it's impacting travel as well as growth. jonathan: it's been a big issue, comparing 2002,