steve meck is a very good question. >> i do. think that, i don't want to say not that journalism is more meaningful career is working and tackling a project manager. for me, i have found work that feels like something that makes sense for me. that's interesting and exciting to me. i think a lot of what was exciting in the first place made me interested in being and staying as an employee, being an employee and staying in the industry, that still really interesting to me. i have just found a better way to gauge in it and that's writing about it. it's kind of a stay in your own lane kind of thing. this is actually where i am potentially most useful, i hope. and that's meaningful to me. i don't think there is any kind of empirical value to one or the other. but yeah, i don't know, it's a personal question. >> that's good,. >> you ever wish you a product manager at google? [laughter] no offense, but yeah. >> i feel very lucky to have found a place that makes sense right now. i don't want to take it for granted. >> that's very nice.