. >> we will hear more about the unique seting that you are providing at unilu in palo alto when we come back. . >>> good morning welcome back to mosaic. with me today is pastor greg schaefer the pastor of university lutheran church in palo alto. and it's a campus ministry site. of course, that campus is stanford university. you've been there 12 years. you have a congregation, you have students, faculty, staff flowing in and out. there are benefits to campus ministry that you were sharing with me. what are some of the benefits that students receive. >> you know. one of the things that i think is not usually the first thing that comes to mind, but students receive a lot of leadership experience in a campus ministry congregation. the president of the congregation has often been a student in the 12 years i've been there. and other elected leaders within the congregation are students. and one of the things we see is that a student graduates from school, and leaves, they will seek out another congregation. what happens there, is they arrive there differently than they might have otherwise. on