analyst as well as a former commodities trader and in toronto we cross alexandre bruno he is an analyst at gulf state analytics a gentleman cross-like rules in effect that means you can jump in anytime you want and i always appreciate pilot may go to you 1st in irvine because you got up early as for this program here all right it all happened quite quickly and a lot of analysts weren't too surprised the deal that the russians and the saudis had collapsed the saudi the russians didn't go along with what the saudis wanted to do and the saudis reacted and now we have carnage on the oil markets here what is saudi arabia's gambit here because you know in the if you look at its budgetary constraints it can afford to have low oil for a very long time and we throw in the coronavirus that is also hurting crude demand all across the world what's the what's the gambit go ahead. well thank you yeah the timing the gambit of the gambit as well as a separate thing all this turmoil and black swans concurrently happening around the world really kind of begs certain geo political questions in my opinion