one day billy kirby offered the city of columbus a beautiful building like this because it was built by people who were selling pastel bloom during a renaissance period. that's purely we are effectively going back to the story of to lose because they were creating dies out of plants until the 19th century then petrochemicals arrived now we want to develop again a production made out of renewable materials about all the material and over. so far the startup has produced several kilos of dolly powder with the help of the bacteria but they will need to improve the process if they're to compete with petro chemical dice to reduce costs they're planning to use a cultural waste as a substitute for sugar. that's a big advantage is that we can take all of the leftovers like stands leaves or other parts of the crop and use them as a source of carbon so we can kill 2 birds with one stone. by 2021. and his team expect to be producing several tons of dipole a year we might then be able to find close died without pigment but they would need more time more money and more production capacity to beco