economic and technological growth see more than ever well to discuss that i'm now joined by dr james hollis a prominent union psychoanalyst and author of the upcoming book living between 2 worlds finding personal resilience in changing times dr hollis it's a great privilege for me to talk to you thank you very much for your time was my privilege i used to be with you now let me start with your upcoming book the 16th i believe to come out from under your pan changing times isn't that a bit of an oxymoron because history has never stopped evolving and the dynamics of personal development are that everybody experiences a crisis at some point in our lives so other times believe in the really so extraordinary well not at all that's exactly the point we always live in changing times we always live in times of the changing structures of our society we live in times that are changes for ourselves crises of understanding of believe the roadmap that we were following etc it's just that we live in a particularly time of great disruption of what people thought were fixed beliefs fixed structures and fi

we had quite a big celebration planned for holly. and now?ust going to be ten of us inside the crematorium. we are spaced out from one another. we are not going to have... we can't even have our immediate family with us, because of the restrictions on numbers. so it is going to feel quite alone. that is going to feel quite alone. that is truly dreadful. i am sorry to hear that. the instructions you have been given, in terms of how you have to sit in the crematorium, that is awful. at a time like this, you need to be near people. yes, i have got to be near people. yes, i have got to say, that has been the hardest thing for ourfamily, to say, that has been the hardest thing for our family, is this sense that we are on our own because, you know, at a time like this, you need yourfamily, yourfriends, know, at a time like this, you need your family, your friends, that physical contact, that help to see it is ok. also, tomorrow it is having that support. holly generated a lot of love around as much as a family unit has helped to keep us going over

holly brewer, thank you for being with us. ms. brewer: you are welcome. nice to meet you. ♪ ♪ announcer: next on the presidency, abraham lincoln revisitsarold holzer the second inaugural or addressed -- second inaugural address delivered six weeks before his assassination and generally considered to be one of the most iconic speeches in american history. the new york historical society hosted the event. welcomee honored to harold holzer back. he is the director of the roosevelt house policy institute at hunter college. he previously served as chairman of the abraham lincoln foundation and cochair of the u.s. lincoln bicentennial commission, appointed by presidenll

holly hasjust taken off, concern right now. holly hasjust ta ken off, we've concern right now., we've been told, but obviously we will try and have another word with her when she's back on the ground, let's see what's been happening. the independent‘s travel editor simon calder is with us in the studio. a bit of context here in terms of others that have struggled and where this one stands in all that? it is a terrible, terrible night, of course, if the failure is confirmed, and i'm expecting it to be confirmed as soon as holly's flight touches down in belfast, which will probably be the very last flight. it is the fourth colla pse very last flight. it is the fourth collapse of a significant british airline infouryears, collapse of a significant british airline in four years, in october 2017 we saw one collapse, then in february last year, flight bmi, another regional airline collapsed. of course thomas cook was the huge operator that collapsed that took its airline with it last year. but this is not the same in terms of scale as some of those. however in terms of what it means

holly brewer, thank you for being with us. ms. brewer: you are welcome. nice to meet you. ♪ ♪ announcer: next on the presidency, abraham lincoln scholar harold holzer revisits the 16th president's second inaugural address delivered six -- on march 4, 1865, just six weeks before his assassination and generally considered to be one of the most iconic speeches in american history. the new york historical society hosted the event. >> we are honored to welcome harold holzer back.

book living between worlds finding personal resilience in changing times dr hollis and now for about a trump let's talk about your books the notion of personal responsibility and accountability for the lives leave and leave the essential to all your work and i heard you say that the main difference between my journey and postmodernity it was this shift a 4th or a from the collective to the individual on the whole are people are ready to shoulder such a burden such a weight. well that's exactly what i was referencing before that the psycho social shift of the summons to personal authority now that is to say what is true for me how my to understand myself and my assignments in this world and from whence comes that authority is it in residual institutions is it in the collective is it within myself in my field paradoxically one of the clues to this is what we call psychopathology when we are acting in such a way that is contradictory to our own nature it always shows up symptomatically and that's one of the ways in which we find ourselves able to discern when what i'm doing is not neces

it is southbound 101 south of holly there. traffic moving nicely according to our censors. no delays in both directions. there is road work happening in san francisco. that will affect your drive right around the 80-101 split off the central freeway area. a little yellow and red on the censors after bit slow coming out of the san francisco commuting on to 101 off 80. plan for th leave the bay bridge area into san francisco. westbound 580 starting to get a bit busy. slow at least to grant line. if you're commuting out of tracy it begin as round mountain house where the brake lights are. 34 minutes 205 to 680. no delays on the east shore. 101 even with the two hot spots not seeing any slowdowns. golden gate bridge looking good. road work on the northbound side. you can see that in the live shot. there are cones blocking off a couple lanes but not causing any delays right now. the bay bridge very quiet. no troubles right now. easy ride out of the east bay as you work your way into san francisco. let's check in with dennis. >> we have news on steph curry's possible return and c

holly will always be a part of dan and his partner lost his life. they keep his own at home. the doctor came in and confirmed. on ultrasound that there was no heartbeat than just fell to the floor and can believe it and. swallow a lot. swallow a lot. and that will stay with me forever and i think his wow like he just kind of think in a minute instead that over sudden everything changes. at 1st down struggle to express his grief. like most men not saying all but most he had to be the man and look after the women then. you know that i was a mess i was awful. since joining the football squad dan has been coping better to come to terms with his daughter's death their team was founded in 2019 in southern england now that joined the amateur football league. before kickoff they observe a minute of silence in honor of their deceased children. but. seriously this is also struck. so far they haven't won any of their matches maybe today's game will bring the turnaround. as a reference to us 100 percent this is all about what we can work inside i mean you say oh the same style you've all

many thanks, holly.hether its latest health measures will do enough to slow the spread of coronavirus. from today, people with a new persistent cough or high temperature are being told to self—isolate for seven days. unlike many countries, the uk hasn't closed schools or banned large gatherings of people. earlier carrie gracie spoke to saffron cordery, the director of policy and strategy at nhs providers, which represent nhs trusts, about how prepared the health service was for the outbreak. trust leaders are telling us about the preparations that they are making. we know that the nhs plans for situations like this, although we are in uncharted territory. but this is about how we make sure that hospitals are ready to receive more patients, how our community services are ready to go out and help people who are stuck at home. and also how ambulances are really managing with that extra demand in quite difficult circumstances. so people really are making plans and also making plans for the fact that many sta

. >> holly brower is professor of history at the university of maryland. is also author of the book "by birth or through consent to go being here onyou c-span3's american history tv. a broadegin with question. how were children viewed in the 16th century, raced on your research, compared to those now in the 21st century? ms. brewer: there was not as much distinction between childhood and adulthood. not even close. children had the legal capacity to do a variety of things and be responsible for things in a way we would not be today. it is almost beyond how we can imagine. for example, i found an example of a five-year-old putting his mark at the bottom of an apprenticeship contract that -- binding himself to labor until he turns 24. it was considered legally binding. i found an eight-year-old executed for arson. i found children marrying as early as two or three. in a fundamental way, there was not the same notion of what we take for granted now, that children had to have, people had to have meaningful consent to be bound. so childhood and adulthood, there

holly harris, president and executive director of the u.s. justice network and a fellow at the brookings institution, know your price. welcome to both of you. let's talk about this. some years ago when we were worried about drugs and crack, we came down hard on a lot of young men, put them into prison. some are still in prison and are not only of the age of people getting coronavirus, they live in a circumstance they can't social distance themselves, don't have the ability to make choices about how they live. there are a lot of attorneys general who wrote a letter to the president saying let some of these people out of jail now. >> yes, absolutely. we have a catastrophic situation happening in our jails and prisons across this country. we've been screaming from the rooftops about overcrowding for quite some time now and now we're seeing that these facilities are ground zero for the spread of the coronavirus. we have people stacked on top of each other like sardines and it's scary. we are seeing jails and state prisons safely reducing incarcer

now i want to turn to our next guest, holly kennington from spartanburg.the virus was spreading, she had to make a gutmgu gut-wrenching choice. he has a life-threateningrain disease, her son. covid-19 made it impossible for you to keep working. i know you don't see it as a choice between a paycheck and your son, and yet that was your choice. >> that was my choice choi, and would absolutely make it over again. this past week the governor of our state has made it a mandate that all bars and restaurants are takeout only. so not just me that's lost their job. are we going to have jobs when we go back? or not? >> and i know for you your job isn't just a paycheck, it as your community. these are your friends. >> it's the only slice of adult normal life that is left. i'm somewhat used to isolation, now. it can be a struggle. >> you know, today, in congress, they were arguing over should we send $1,000 to every american for relief. what could you do with that money? >> i could pay my car insurance for several months. i could pay rent. but $1,000, be honest, is not

holly brewer teaches history at the university of maryland. thank you for being with us. ms. brewer: you are welcome. nice to meet you. announcer: you're watching american history tv. all weekend every weekend on history tv. , american h week history tv's reel america gives you archival films that provide publict for affairs issues. ♪ [sneezing] narrator: the symptoms are familiar. very likely will come up with a correct diagnosis. yes, it looks like a common cold. running nose, headache, a guinness, fever. those are some of the symptoms of the common cold. how do we get into that unhappy state? do we have colds simply because of colds, because of ice, snow and low temperature? no. funny thing about colds? , where it is coldest, the inhabitants likely never get colds. eskimos are called-free, unless they come into contact with visitors outside their frozen world. if it is not just cold weather, what is it that causes so many of us to catch cold? scientists think most colds are caused by extremely small .icroorganisms called viruses viruses, and there are many different kinds

author of the upcoming book living between 2 worlds finding personal resilience in changing times dr hollis it's a great privilege for me to talk to you thank you very much for your time. to be with you now let me start with the title of your upcoming book the 16th i believe to come out from under your pan changing times isn't that a bit of an oxymoron because history has never stopped evolving and the dynamics of personal development. everybody experiences a crisis at some point in our lives so other times i believe in the really so extraordinary well not at all that's exactly the point we always live in changing times we always live in times of the changing structures of our society we live in times that are changes for ourselves crises of understanding of believe the roadmap that we were following etc it's just that we live in a particularly time of great disruption of what people thought were fixed beliefs fixed structures and fixed understanding's of self and world so the real question is how does anybody personally survive and adapt but also maintain a sense of core integrity during t

technological growth seem more infantile than ever while to discuss that i'm now joined by dr james hollis a prominent union psychoanalyst and author of the upcoming book living between 2 worlds finding personal resilience in changing times dr hollis it's a great privilege for me to talk to you thank you very much for your time was my privilege to be with you now let me start with the title of your upcoming book the 16th i believe to come out from under your pan changing times isn't that a bit of an oxymoron because history has never stopped evolving and the dynamics of personal development are that everybody experiences a crisis at some point and. other times i believe in the really so extraordinary well not at all.

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holly phillips. good morning to you. thanks for joining us. let's talk about those masks because you see them everywhere. but some people are saying they're not effective. they're really only effective if you are already exhibiting symptoms. why is that? >> masks are a very hot-button topic right now. and whether or not you should wear one actually depends on where you live. widespread in asia. people are expected to wear masks, right? their public health officials have encouraged everyone, particularly in areas where there is a large amount of spread of coronavirus, to wear masks. here, our surgeon general actually put out a statement just a couple of days ago discouraging people from wearing masks. >> is that to save them for medical professionals? >> that it could make it worse, absolutely. i really think that the -- the basis of his statement was to make sure we don't run into a shortage for both healthcare workers and also people who are sick. now, masks, the regular, surgical masks that we -- you know, that you see people wearing, they l

hollis is impressed. he was about 17 at the time. he said, what this guy coming down here from harvard, doing this work? then he says to moses, but you know if you really want to be about it, mccomb is easy. where you really need to go is to amity and walthal county because there is about one black person registered to vote between the two counties. what moses knew was that if he took the easy route -- understand when i say easy, i have it in big quotes. he knew that in order to fully gain the trust, because movement building is also about trust. in order to gain the trust of black mississippians, he would have to go where they live. he went into amity county. it got almost like quiet in here. he started doing the civic education classes, voter education classes, then he went to go register some folks to vote. he got arrested. think about that. you just got arrested for registering american citizens to vote. but he knows he has the protection of the federal government. so he calls john doerr, who is an assistant in bobby kennedy's of

before the papers — sport and for a full round up, the bbc sport centre, here's holly hamilton.y hamilton. almost didn't have her at al because we almost didn't have her at all because she was stranded on the ru nway because she was stranded on the runway at manchester four hours. did you go to belfast? you yes, last time we spoke, at we will stop talking as i was sitting on a flight, talking as i was sitting on a flight, that was for three hours. they did eventually take off and i got back again, thank goodness. business as normal now. that whole fiasco with flybe did come down to coronavirus, and it is something that has been affecting a major number of sporting events as well. there are question marks hanging over a number of major sporting events due to the coronavirus and this morning it's been announced that formula 1's bahrain grand prix will be staged dehind closed doors. organisers issued a statement to say it was halting ticket sales for the event later this month. they say they know how disappointed many fans will be but safety is their priority. next weekend's season

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stay faithful so that there were maybe fewer stars though we did still have johnny depp helen mirren holly about them and some hike on the red carpet but the focus this year was less on hollywood glitz than on phenomenal global senate. house the awards wrapped up the winners admired their banners before heading off to celebrate. here today don t w news thanks for watching. we speak different languages we fight for different things that's fine but we also think up for freedom freedom of speech and freedom of press. giving freedom of choice global news that matters t.w. made for mines. good use crime fighters are back africa's most successful radio drama series continue. this season the stories focus on hate speech prevention sustainable charcoal production. all of this are available online and of course you can share and discuss on africa's facebook page and other social media platforms. insiders to name now. it doesn't look much like winter in germany central appalachians here skiers snowboarders and above all ski resort operators are suffering from the mild temperatures. out there ski are

thank you, holly.overnment is preparing for all eventualities as the coronavirus outbreak spreads, and he said ministers will take whatever action is required. speaking to the bbc‘s andrew marr, ahead of this week's budget, he acknowledged it was a tough time for businesses. he has stuck firmly to the long established tradition and rule that chancellors keep to of saying very little about what is in the budget, other than a few select leaks and announcements beforehand until he stands up on his feet in the house of commons on wednesday. we didn't learn a huge amount as to the contents of the budget this morning but rishi sunak has been out and about. as you say, only in the job for three weeks or so, delivering the first budget we have had for more than a year now because the one we were due to get in november was delayed because of the general election and, add to all that pressure on top of that, the coronavirus which, i would imagine, has meant they had to, to an extent in the treasury, rip up the p

sport now on afternoon live with holly. coronavirus? it does feel like a series of cancellations and postponements. i think the problem at the minute is that it think the problem at the minute is thatitis think the problem at the minute is that it is ok to delay these events, but many of them like the premier league have to be completed still. there is still no answers about that. the olympic qualifiers as well and with tokyo just nearly five months away now, it brings us to a huge question, one we are all wanting to know, should the olympics in tokyo go ahead? well, organisers are holding crisis talks tomorrow. our sports correspondent, andy swiss can tell us more about it. we understand that tomorrow the ioc will hold talks with the various international sports federations because a lot of them are struggling to hold their olympic qualifying competitions because of coronavirus. the ioc will also have an executive board meeting, their second in a fortnight to discuss the latest elements. we are not expecting anything concr

end holly a village there are 40 of us women there are elderly mothers there are middle aged mothers there are young people doing the beekeeping. we train people and we ourselves have been trained on how to harvest the honey and how do wear these clothes as you can see. the training is done by the nonprofit organization african people and wild life it's instructors show the women how to assemble the hypes how to protect themselves and how to harvest the honey. the program gives them financial independence and also empowers them in the male dominated mass i community where their. camping is important for this masai community because they demonstrated hard work and a long history of protecting the environment with their beekeeping project as a venture to protect their environment while also securing some income for the needs through the sale of honey and other beekeeping products. with. the organization provides funding to help the women start their own businesses in return they devote some of their time to conservation walk some of them plant trees others clean up the village educate

that was a quote from senator holly of missouri, a republican senator read the second senator said referring to the draft package the current bill shouldn't get lower earners lower checks. directly contrary to my proposal . we need to fix this to ensure lower earners get equal payments. that quote is from senator romney of utah. i agree with both of them. we should makesure if there's any financial relief coming to people , those in lower incomecategories should get as much or more than anyone else . i could not agree more with herassessment . the direct cash benefit measure in this plan would give those most in need of assistance in the lower income categories sometimes nothingat all. additionally the bill contains a provision that would allow middle and higher tincome earners to receive more of a benefitthan low to moderate earners . that's upside down, mister president . goldman sachs release predictions that unemployment claims may rise 2.25 million this week. that would be the highest level on record. this proposal that we've been given by the other side falls for sure far short ofmakin

>> i respect senator holly and understand his revulsion to what we saw yesterday in front of the supreme court. the best way to express that we are discussing among our souls and many members are speaking out. shannon: great to have you with us. democratic senator elizabeth foreign dropping out of the race for president, declining to endorse either of the two remaining top-tier candidates in the democratic feels want harold is the most diverse ever, it was coming out is down to two wealthy white men, that is a problem for some democrats. >> if it is a problem they won't vote for either one. the combined age of the two men running for the democratic nomination would put us at the end of the american civil war. we have a diehard democrats wondering if there's a problem with that. >> differences between you and vice president biden? >> two old white guys on the ticket? i think the american people -- one old white guys when too many to some. we don't get diversity from that. >> the original democratic field included a cornucopia of intersectional politics including six women, four african-am

i'm holly hamilton, good evening. coming up tonight: three in a row.ty beat aston villa to win their third straight league cup — we'll be live at wembley. everton boss carlo ancelotti sees red as his side are denied a late winner against manchester united in the premier league. elinor barker claims great britain's first gold medal at the track cycling world championships in berlin. also coming up in the programme: we bring you all the reaction from melbourne as england's women thrash west indies to seal their place in the semi finals of the t20 world cup. hello, thank you forjoining us on another busy day. we start at wembley where manchester city have got their hands on yet another bit of silverware. they beat aston villa in the final of the league cup — to win it for the third year in a row. natalie pirks is there. there is a sense from the fans who are streaming away towards the tube that they were in this game for the first 19 minutes, they really took the game to city, and they have almost set up a permanent home here, their 16th visit in ten seas

i'm holly hamilton. coming up on tonight's programme: three in a row.ester city beat aston villa to win their first straight league cup. we will be live at wembley. everton boss carlo ancelotti sees red as his side are denied a late winner against manchester united in the premier league. elinor barker claims great britain's first gold medal at the track cycling world championships in berlin. also coming up in the programme: we bring you all the reaction from melbourne as england's women thrashed west indies to seal their place in the semi finals of the t20 world cup. hello and welcome to the programme — on another busy day — but we start at wembley where manchester city have got their hands on yet another bit of silverware. they beat aston villa in the final of the league cup — to win it for the third year in a row. natalie pirks is there for us this evening. there was a lot of talk about the fa ct there was a lot of talk about the fact that this was very much manchester city's for the taking, but villa did put up a fight, didn't they? they really did,

holly: i have not heard anything new about kamala harris and her endorsement.be endorsing joe biden a while ago. happening. end up now we are a few days away from when thursday, california votes, and she could make a big difference for joe biden, particularly if bernie sanders is in the leading california. many polls show him quite -- up quite a bit. as the onlyhow him candidate with the 15% statewide delegate. harris endorsement could really change that and change the race at the same time. it is a tough decision for her to make because sanders is clearly so popular in that state. if she endorses biden, does that upset some of her voters? , joininglly otterbein us from south carolina, keeping track of the candidates and bernie sanders. her work available at polito ico.com. joe bidentonight is romping to victory in south carolina. it is available online at politico.com. thank you for joining us. holly: thank you for having me. steve: the other big story, tom steyer dropping out of the race. two other candidates we covered, both in north carolina, raleigh, north

down by gilroy or hollis, this sale has been lingering. they will continue to see heavy downpours. the yellow is rain. that's the kind of day it has been down towards the fresno area. we have seen a few thundershowers. a live camera shot, it does not look like spring? that is spring if you ask me. we have a spring pattern i guess it is. it will last the next couple of days. you will see more sunshine. we get back into the potential for rain as we head towards the weekend. when i come back, we will look at that and the long-range computer model. >>> the east bay regional park district says they are closing some of their parts to prevent the coronavirus from spreading. officials say more people visited the park this like we can then on a busy holiday. while that would usually be good news, in this case, they have to close areas to prevent overcrowding. the parking lots will be closed in alameda. others like the regional wilderness and botanical garden will be completely closed. you can find the full list on our website, ktvu.com. >>> san francisco's muni has confirmed one of its empl

. >> i'm a big fan of senator holly, i also like the idea.some senators that didn't want to do anything. but they are based in different places. they are based in more than one place. ships are registered in different locations. i do like the concept of perhaps coming in and registering here. coming in to united states it is -- you know tough to make a loan to a company when they are based in a different country. with that said, they have thousands of people that work there, maybe almost as importantly that work onshore filling the ships with goods and products. and cruise line business is very important. i know carnival, a great job they do. and i would think that we could stick with senator holly and look at that. look it is a big business, a great business, a business that employs trendous number of people outside of the ship itself, you look at ports it loaded with shops and people that are involved. we'll work hard on the cruise line business, and try to work something out. but i like that concept. >> thank you, sir. >> the senate bill i

south 101 at holly street. still activity to the right shoulder but no lanes are blocked. northbound through the area traffic is moving nicely in both directions. earlier road work we lad our on eye is clearing just a bit. things edge provening. a little slowing on the westbound 80 commute into san francisco. give yourself a few extra minutes there. it is slow and go. lots of brake lights off tracy into the altamont pass. >>> let's start with up to the minute results in the democratic presidential race here in california. they are calling bernie sanders the winner with 93% of the vote counted. sanders is at 33%. joe biden at 24%. followed bay mike bloomberg at 15% of the >> and overnight a big swing in the vote for proposal 13 with 93% of the vote in. california's only state proposition with $15 billion of funding for schools on the line has been voted down. 44% saying yes. 56% saying no. >>> and in san francisco, measure e got the majority approval to pass. it will restrict new offices being built. >>> measure d finds property owners that leave their store fronts empty re

holly is here with us, what can you tell us?velopment. absolutely. this is the first premier league game affected by coronavirus. we have seen a few european matches affected with many games being played behind closed doors. as you mentioned, this stems back from a game arsenal played two weeks ago and the owner of the team they played against has been diagnosed with coronavirus. two weeks ago, he was on the pitch with arsenal players and we saw him talking and shaking hands. we know there are a number of arsenal players sent into isolation, into their own home, this is precautionary, they are being tested and this is only come to light today but they have known about it so that 14 day isolation will end this saturday, that is good news for arsenal and they will be back to work at this saturday for their premier league game against burnley. but looking ahead it is more concerning. libby argus adieu play wolves tomorrow night in the europa league. they would like the game called off but uefa has refused and wolves have described

holly sanders thank you for the request, and by the way, if you want to get in on traffic jams, you havend us your request using the hashtag "ktvu" just go ahead and send it instagram and i'll see it there. >>> well the last few weeks have made us very aware of the germs around us. covid-19 can live in the air for three hours and on surfaces from one to three days. beth gal vin joins us to talk about this. very concerning numbers when i heard that. especially when we're talking about grocery shopping, takeout orders, even food delivery. when you're talking about the virus can live for a certain amount of time. so what should we do when we're bringing things into our home. >> so if you're going grocery shopping and you're coming home and i'm getting a little feedback in my ear. when you're bringing things into your home, pam. if you're ordering your groceries, you know, to have them delivered, if you're having somebody pick them up, what you want to do when you're handling the packaging as you said for a little bit of time yowant to try to wash your hands. i don't think you're in that muc

holly phillips. >> sure. a lot of these concepts are viable. we certainly hope that we start to see some lessening of the speed of the spread of the virus. part of it has to do with our own behavior. school is out. of course school is out in many plates nationwide already. but that helps to slow the spread of viruses. we will also be outside. that might help slow the spread. we don't know about coronavirus in particular if that virus, the way it is composed if it will spread less in a hot temperature. but we have to still say vigilant. if indeed it starts to slow during the warm weather, it may then pick up again in the fall, october or november. this is not a put a band-aid on it, quick fix. social distancing is the number one weapon in our arsenal. >> very quickly, joseph, 81,000, what do you think about that? >> i think it's very -- there's a high percentage that could be a correct number. it might even be on the low end. it is going to depend on the vent laters, how quickly we can get people into care, do we have enough beds for them. do th