video animation put together by some online saudi outfit that shows saudi forces at had qassem hull imani haggard and giving himself up to the that is their fantasy. realize they have to leave it up to the americans to do it. >> host: so tell us, i thought one or two -- not that you collaborated you didn't say the same thing. but the two most thoughtful articles after soleimani's killing, that i saw were one you wrote in a camper member where he sought. >> guest: the atlantic. >> host: yes that's where i saw you described with the u.s. needs to do now you are no advocate of soleimani via said if you just leave it this way it's going to be a real problem. you need to send additional messages. what is the effect of soleimani's death on the calculus? he was leading the demonstration to get iran out of iraq, now he is leading demonstrations to get us, the united states out of iraq. >> guest: he is also visited thinking -- i think that it is important to remember that qassem soleimani did run a network of murderous militias around the region from iraq to syria to yemen. in while of course the