hand there was a live on the line there speaking earlier today i'm joined now at the big table by marc perrine he is the former u.s. or e.u. rather ambassador to turkey ambassador it's good to have you on the program it sounds like europe is giving into turkey and that a new deal is inevitable is it it's a little more complex than that the meeting yesterday just reported it's been useful it's been very tense. the usefulness is in my view one thing 1st for the 1st time probably the president took he was given a detailed account of what the u.s. don't you know this narrative from has been for years the use not doing anything well thank you 9 percent committed 77 percent complied to what he knows that what the e.u. is doing doesn't well not in the political narrative that is that he was that interested so one point was well we can go forward but you have to recognize that we are in business you're not alone you turkey of the lot that's for sure we've done a lot along with you and the cooperation is working very well so that's one thing the 2nd thing is of course about the great border. this is th